Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?

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Sujet : Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?
De : this (at) *nospam* ddress.is.invalid (Frank Slootweg)
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Date : 27. Apr 2025, 20:56:36
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Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
Frank Slootweg, 2025-04-25 20:41:
 
[...]
  IMO, the 'no-root' philosophy of Android (and iOS?) is broken from the
start. I can't access my files in Android\data etc.? I can't run a
server on a <1024 port? Etc., etc.. But I *can* (f.e. Samsung) unlock
the bootloader and blow everything to bits!?
 
Yes - because unlocking the bootlader is not possible without wiping the
device. So no risk of getting access to data for an attacker. Also this
requires understanding how to install ADB and how to enter fast boot
mode on the device and so on...

  Yes, I thought the same, unlocking bootloader wipes the device,
because that was for example the case for my Huawei phone (in
preparation of installing TWRP and later Lineage OS).

  However, someone in comp.mobile.android pointed out that (non-US)
Samsung phones have a bootloader unlock switch in the 'Developer
options' and indeed my Samsung (Galaxy A51) has such a switch, without
any comments that it will wipe the device.

  However, now I'm reading it again, the wording of the off/on switch is
a bit vague:

"OEM unlocking
 Allow the bootloader to be unlocked <off/on switch>"

  It says it *allows* the bootloader *to be* unlocked, not that
switching the switch to on will *actually unlock* the bootloader.

  So in hindsight, I think the switch only allows the bootloader to be
unlocked (by whatever additional means/process) and will not actually
unlock it.

  Anyway, I'm not going to set the switch to on to see what will happen
or/and there will be further information/warnings.

  Bottom line: I withdraw the last sentence of my criticism, but the
rest, especially the "Etc., etc.." bit :-), still stands.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Apr 25 * Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?86Chris
16 Apr 25 `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?85Tyrone
16 Apr 25  +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?9Alan
16 Apr 25  i+* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Jolly Roger
16 Apr 25  ii`- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
16 Apr 25  i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?6Marion
17 Apr 25  i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?5Jolly Roger
17 Apr 25  i  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?4Marion
17 Apr 25  i   `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Jolly Roger
22 Apr 25  i    `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Marion
22 Apr 25  i     `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Jolly Roger
16 Apr 25  +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?30Chris
17 Apr 25  i+* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?24Marion
17 Apr 25  ii+* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?18Tyrone
17 Apr 25  iii`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?17Chris
17 Apr 25  iii +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
17 Apr 25  iii +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Tyrone
22 Apr 25  iii i`- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Marion
22 Apr 25  iii +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Marion
24 Apr 25  iii `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?12Arno Welzel
24 Apr 25  iii  +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?8Alan
25 Apr 25  iii  i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?7Arno Welzel
25 Apr 25  iii  i +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Frank Slootweg
25 Apr 25  iii  i i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Marion
27 Apr 25  iii  i i `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Arno Welzel
25 Apr 25  iii  i +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Jolly Roger
27 Apr 25  iii  i i`- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Arno Welzel
26 Apr 25  iii  i `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
24 Apr 25  iii  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Jolly Roger
25 Apr 25  iii   `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Arno Welzel
25 Apr 25  iii    `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Jolly Roger
17 Apr 25  ii+- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
17 Apr 25  ii`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?4Chris
17 Apr 25  ii `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Marion
17 Apr 25  ii  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course. (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?)2Tyrone
17 Apr 25  ii   `- Video showing Arlen is an ignorant liar (was Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? They use standard SMB of course.1Alan
17 Apr 25  i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?5Tyrone
17 Apr 25  i +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Jolly Roger
17 Apr 25  i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Marion
17 Apr 25  i  +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Tyrone
17 Apr 25  i  `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Tyrone
17 Apr 25  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?45Frank Slootweg
17 Apr 25   +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?39Tyrone
18 Apr 25   i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?38Marion
18 Apr 25   i +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
18 Apr 25   i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?36Tyrone
19 Apr 25   i  +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
19 Apr 25   i  +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?33Marion
19 Apr 25   i  i+- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
22 Apr 25   i  i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?31Arno Welzel
22 Apr 25   i  i +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?9Marion
24 Apr 25   i  i i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?8Arno Welzel
24 Apr 25   i  i i +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Alan
25 Apr 25   i  i i i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Arno Welzel
26 Apr 25   i  i i i `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
24 Apr 25   i  i i +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Jolly Roger
25 Apr 25   i  i i i`- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Arno Welzel
25 Apr 25   i  i i +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Tyrone
14 May 25   i  i i `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1John Gardner
22 Apr 25   i  i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?21Carlos E.R.
22 Apr 25   i  i  +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Marion
24 Apr 25   i  i  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?19Arno Welzel
24 Apr 25   i  i   +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
24 Apr 25   i  i   +- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Chris
25 Apr 25   i  i   `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?16Tyrone
25 Apr 25   i  i    +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?11Frank Slootweg
25 Apr 25   i  i    i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?10Arno Welzel
25 Apr 25   i  i    i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?9Carlos E.R.
25 Apr 25   i  i    i  +* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?4Frank Slootweg
27 Apr 25   i  i    i  i`* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Arno Welzel
27 Apr 25   i  i    i  i `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Frank Slootweg
27 Apr 25   i  i    i  i  `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Marion
26 Apr 25   i  i    i  `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?4Alan
26 Apr 25   i  i    i   `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Jolly Roger
26 Apr 25   i  i    i    `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Carlos E.R.
26 Apr 25   i  i    i     `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Jolly Roger
25 Apr 25   i  i    `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?4Arno Welzel
26 Apr 25   i  i     `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?3Alan
27 Apr 25   i  i      `* Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?2Arno Welzel
29 Apr 25   i  i       `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Alan
19 Apr 25   i  `- Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?1Frank Slootweg
17 Apr 25   `* Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank... (was: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows?)5Jolly Roger
17 Apr 25    `* Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank...4Tyrone
17 Apr 25     `* Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank...3Jolly Roger
17 Apr 25      `* Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank...2Alan
17 Apr 25       `- Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank...1Jolly Roger

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