Re: What's the actual *advantage* of HAVING an sd slot?

On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 23:43:21 +0200, Arno Welzel wrote :

You just made a statement which I can easily pick apart logically.
The fact is, you did pay more money. In fact, you paid a *lot* more money.

 
No - I just bought that device and that's it. I am not paying for Google
cloud services.

Hi Arno, (this is a nicer me, but still the logically sensible me)

I didn't say anything about Google cloud services when I explained you got
badly fleeced by Google's rather brilliant marketing ploy of removing basic
functionality so that you have to pay an arm & a leg to replace it.

You paid Google, at yesterday's prices, for the total amount of on-device
storage you estimated you'd need during the life of the phone - well before
you needed it.

Google marketing thanks you for making that decision.
So would Apple marketing.

And, Samsung marketing (for the high-end phones only though).

Google/Apple/Samsung marketing is not stupid.
They're actually brilliant.

Thank God Samsung still makes phones with basic functionality not removed.

 

I am as experienced as anyone on having over a thousand packages on my
phone, which *easily* fits within the bounds of 64GB of internal storage.

 
And I have around 100 GB of data on my phone because I have OSMAnd with
offline map data and many other things.
 
So what?

Thank you for proving one of my points about the utility of sd cards.

I have tested every free offline map program on Android, as you know.
And you know I've written tutorials on which are the best offline maps.
And I've written tutorials on how to store map data onto the sd card, too.

Why is it that I can store all my offline map data onto an sd card (instead
of onto expensive internal memory) and you can't do what I can do?

The correct answer to that question is that Google/Apple/Samsung(high end)
marketing is not stupid.

By removing basic hardware functionality, they force you to plan ahead for
your total amount of required storage - where you have to over estimate
since you don't really know years in advance - where you pay hugely
inflated prices for that internal storage - at yesterday's costs.

I don't remember if I've mentioned it yet, but
Google/Apple/Samsung(highend) marketing is exquisitely brilliant.

I see right through their marketing of removing basic functionality so that
you have to plan ahead to buy it back at hugely inflated prices.

But can it be that nobody else on this newsgroup can see that too?

The *main* reason people buy a phone with greater than 64GB of internal
storage is that phone is a substandard phone that lacks the sd slot.

 
I don't care. It works for me.

It works even better for Apple/Google/Samsung(highend) marketing bonuses.

BTW, you don't have to agree with me that you got fleeced by Google.
But you should at least *understand* why I assess that you were fleeced.

 
I run multiple servers with around 4 TB storage in total - always
accessible and backed up daily to multiple different locations. These
servers are also used to keep backups of my smartphone, my adressbook,
calendar, all the pictures I take with my phone, e-mail, password
manager using Bitwarden and so on...
 
Telling me, that I am "fleeced by Google" is really funny ;-).

I am always logically sensible in all my arguments, Arno.
But not everyone thinks logically, nor sensibly.

My argument is based on pure logical sense.

If you don't understand the difference in these two things, then you won't
ever be able to understand why I ascertained that you were fleeced.

1. The cost in yesterday's dollars of X amount of internal storage
   for a device that lacks basic functionality which you plan on
   lasting five years - so you have to plan for five years of storage.

2. The cost in yesterday's dollars of 1/2 to 1/4 of X amount of internal
   storage for a device that has basic functionality which you plan on
   lasting five years - but where you can easily double, triple or
   quadruple the storage at any time at the vastly lower prices of today.

If you don't understand the cost difference above is enormous, then you'll
not be able to understand why I assessed that you were fleeced by Google.

Note that this logically sensible cost argument above is in addition to the
logically sensible functionality argument which has been explained
elsewhere, in that it's *impossible* to do with internal storage what
portable storage does. (See my detailed explanation to Rudy on that.)

In summary, anyone who bought a phone without basic hardware functionality
got fleeced because they were forced to pay more to get less functionality,
but if they don't want to agree with the logically sensible arguments that
I provide to them for free, they don't need to.

Google/Apple/Samsung(highend) marketing bonus are funded by those people.