Re: Spamcop-top200 incomplete archives at Google

On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 02:58:17 -0000 (UTC)
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:

In article <20240310172630.4759695c26c37928f33202a6@inter-corporate.com>,
Randolf Richardson 張_  _    <noc@inter-corporate.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 01:17:18 +0100 (CET)
D <J@M> wrote:

On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 23:29:52 -0000 (UTC), doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The

Doctor) wrote:

In article <9060e37cebc329c87ebfe77d4b9fc47f@dizum.com>, D  <J@M> wrote:

On Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:43:53 +0100, Andrzej Adam Filip

<anfi@onet.eu> wrote:

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Google removed the newest post from its archive:
https://groups.google.com/g/spamcop-top200
All posts are available at:
https://www.mail-archive.com/spamcop-top200@googlegroups.com/
I refuse to see Google actions as *my* problem.

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this may be unrelated to what you are describing, but this was posted
to many usenet server-related newsgroups and has remained uncontested:
using 40tude dialog > edit > find a message-id > from server (servers
added to settings > servers, identities, signatures... > newsservers),
preliminary results indicate that this article could be google's last:
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Message-ID: <7e2a356c-8313-45c1-a12c-44bd4f0ba39cn@googlegroups.com>
Subject: <thai spam>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:08:15 -0800 (PST)
Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:08:15 +0000

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22 february 2024 03:08:15 pm ut (000w00:00,00n00:00; jd 2460363.13073)
22 february 2024 10:08:15 am et (074w00:11,40n44:29; jd 2460363.13073)
22 february 2024 07:08:15 am pt (122w05:02,37n25:18; jd 2460363.13073)
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pending further updates, it appears that google shut down their usenet
gateway shortly after 7 a.m. googleplex time thursday 22 february 2024
[end citation]
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google groups is completely disconnected from usenet ... so why should
anyone reading in these usenet newsgroups browse a "ghost ship" server
whose legacy is that google became the worst spammer in global history?

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Gmail and GGroups!

 
i've never used email any more than necessary but i've read that
gmail is notoriously spammy . . . couldn't be nearly as horrible
as google groups was . . . could it? is gmail really that putrid?

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GMail users who aren't accustomed to checking the
junk folder for legitimate eMail sometimes complain
to senders that they never received the eMail that
was sent to them.  It's a strategy that many free
webmail providers use to claim a spam-free inbox,
but it comes at the cost of junking legitimate
messages from senders who haven't been whitelisted
(which may also serve as an example of how a pure
technology-based anti-spam solution can't solve a
human problem, at least not entirely).
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GMail also has many users who send spam, and on a
daily basis some of them also try to sell (whatever
it is they claim to be selling) to our spamtraps as
well as our users.  The volume of spam received
also varies from one user to the next (ditto for
spamtraps).  Google has a vast user base, so it's
certainly a significant challenge.

 
You can track Gmail spam at
 
https://www.nk.ca/blog/index.php?/categories/14-Google-Spam

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That looks similar to what we've been seeing.
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The page is confusing to look at because
the headers is double-spaced, although it is
still readable.
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Is that data published in a database format
of some sort, such as CSV or BIND DNS zone?
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Inter-Corporate Computer & Network Services, Inc.
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