Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.

On 19 Oct 2024 17:18:57 GMT, Thomas Alexandre <none@no.invalid> wrote:

Le Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:45:32 +0000, Retro Guy a �crit�:

Followup-To is required for more than 2 groups in fr.*

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Then how did your server allow the following message without any Follow-
up ?
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From: P�re Sonnes <pere.sonnes@meta-science.fr>
Newsgroups: fr.sci.zetetique,fr.soc.religion,fr.sci.philo
Message-ID: <e7bd06e52d3ada15df6f96d160783c4e8671f5a9@i2pn2.org>
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It's not the only one.
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I also see earlier in this thread, "he crossposted to 8 forums", which
can not be done on i2pn2 so it must have been a different server. i2pn2
limits posting to a max of 6 groups.

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As far as I remember, yes it was from a different server (and "P�re Sonnes"
was banned from it).
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In addition to the above, i2pn2 limits number of posts per hour for all
users, and for my web interfaces that feed through i2pn2, the limit is
even more restricted.

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That's great - and I really mean it.
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These are all attempts to limit the amount of abuse that can happen on
my servers, and so far it seems to work well. As I find holes in the
filtering, I'll try to fix it. But I will not restrict ideas and
opinions. I have users that post things I strongly disagree with, but I
don't not prohibit them from expressing these views.

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It's not a matter of ideas or opinions.
First it's a matter of technical abuse on the fr hierarchy. You cleary
answered that your server forbid xpost to 2+ groups without fu2 (as you
stated above). I guess the MID I mentioned was before you enforce
filtering.
Second, and this one is tricky, there are ground rules on fr. Xposting to
fr.soc.politique (where I can assure you that free speech is totaly alive)
is considered as an abuse. Posting off topic *on a regular basis* is also
considered an abuse. It's NOT a matter of opinion, it's just a matter of
being on topic.
Nobody can claim that those ground rules are free speech related. I'm
perfectly aware that Europe and US have very different points of view on
this but the fact is : you can express any idea on any group on fr *as long
as you are on topic*.
And the regulations in *my* country (France - that forbid me, by law, to
express a few ideas) are **irrelevant** for this matter.

probably correct since this article is dated 5 Aug 2024 (75 days ago),
but its content is the same old infantile troll-bait that really does
not warrant complaints from anyone, especially those unwilling to use
filters in their favorite newsreader (e.g. 40tude dialog, tbird, etc.)
to simply demote cross-posted articles and ignore trollish subthreads

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Newsgroups: fr.sci.zetetique,fr.soc.religion,fr.sci.philo
Subject: Re: Comment pourrions nous prouver l'existence de Dieu ?
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 18:16:50 -0000 (UTC)
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Le lundi 29 juillet 2024 � 17:39 , P�re Sonnes, S'est exprim� :

Comment pourrions nous prouver l'existence de Dieu ?
Quelle type de preuves ?
--

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Signe du Cancer(69)
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Autre code int�ressant :
R�f�rentiel : Diceware
�2009  d�esse
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chronic complaints about trolling -- without suggesting that subscribers
use their newsreader filters accordingly -- is "trolling for billygoats";

the world-famous french philosopher voltaire was french . . . wasn't he?