Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.

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Sujet : Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.
De : contact (at) *nospam* usenet.ovh (Jean-Paul)
Groupes : news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Date : 20. Oct 2024, 11:23:59
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Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net> composa la prose suivante:

Le 19/10/2024 19:18, Thomas Alexandre a écrit :
 
[...] Posting off topic *on a regular basis* is also
considered an abuse. It's NOT a matter of opinion, it's just a matter of
being on topic.
>
I completely agree. Indeed, the two users who have now found refuge at i2pn2
do this sort of abuse every day (and even every hour for one of them).


You're just agitating to put pressure on an honest newsmaster. Just as you once
tried with others against Eternal-September with threats of udp and letters in
German :-(



They even obtained a majority of votes for the cancellation of their articles:
<news:umh49a$jtn$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net>

Worthless: an obscure vote in a sub-thread in December outside
of all the recognized rules of the “fr” hierarchy

See: <5uoooi9cb92pg9626f9l37hr8lbpht97s7@news.usenet.ovh>
<http://usenet.ovh/index.php?article=ual&msgid=5uoooi9cb92pg9626f9l37hr8lbpht97s7@news.usenet.ovh>

-Traduction-------------------------------------------------
Olivier Miakinen <om+news@miakinen.net> composed the following prose:

(...blabla..)

Out of 11 votes cast, 7 are for cancellation and 4 for not cancelling.
So there's a consensus to cancel.

No, there are a few votes, but no consensus.
I've already explained why here:
<oulnoidur0hiqd9t15c7emtr803qbvvl62@news.usenet.ovh>
and here <q0vnoi1jddr77p7nusfor8fp6bnlu0q291@news.usenet.ovh>


In conclusion :

I recall the conclusion of the message:
 “Before giving away names via a qcm to ask
  whether or not to cancel, it would be necessary to show how the writings of
   these could be flood. This is the preliminary question any serious
   discussion.
   As it stands, this discussion initiated in an obscure fuad sub-thread
   has no legitimacy or raison d'être other than to make noise.
   Which you've succeeded in doing, as usual.
   So I'm not going to take part in this charade and I fiercely oppose
  to any conclusions that might be drawn from it, one way or the other.
"

Should these abusive cancellations be implemented by
Olivier Miakinen, a periodic reminder of the abusive cancellations
will be made and published as appropriate on the appropriate groups.
--------------------------------------------------





And the analysist: <267upit48p97hl2keb3bucdbmbp7moooas@news.usenet.ovh>
http://usenet.ovh/index.php?article=ual&msgid=%3C267upit48p97hl2keb3bucdbmbp7moooas@news.usenet.ovh%3E
-Traduction-------------------------------------------------
Out of 11 votes cast, 7 were in favor of cancellation and 4 against.
There is therefore a consensus in favor of cancellation.

A small addition:

Of the 13 “voters” in this masquerade:

- 9 use servers that don't need cancels
(pasdenom.info because it already uses nocems, nemoweb because it's only
fed messages only via pasdenom.info, and
eternal-september and usenet.ovh because they refuse these illegitimate
cancels).

- 1 uses usenet-fr.net (Olivier Miakinen)

- 3 users use free.fr
Three people have voted!

And you want to impose this on all of Free?
This vote is a complete swindle...
....and Olivier Miakinen talks about consensus.

And I'm not even talking about formal, reasoned opposition.
:mdr:
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28 Sep 24 * Multiple abuses from i2pn2.137Eric M
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6 Oct 24 ii `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.10Jean-Paul
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18 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.20Jean-Paul
18 Oct 24 ii    +- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Thomas Alexandre
19 Oct 24 ii    `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.18Retro Guy
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19 Oct 24 ii      +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.6Retro Guy
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21 Oct 24 ii      i+- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Thomas Alexandre
30 Oct 24 ii      i`- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Eric M
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20 Oct 24 ii      i+- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Jean-Paul
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20 Oct 24 ii      `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.2Frank Slootweg
21 Oct 24 ii       `- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Thomas Alexandre
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14 Oct 24 i    `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.41Eric M
14 Oct 24 i     +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.39R Daneel Olivaw
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15 Oct 24 i     i +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.6Frank Slootweg
15 Oct 24 i     i i`* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.5Eric M
15 Oct 24 i     i i `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.4Frank Slootweg
15 Oct 24 i     i i  `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.3Eric M
15 Oct 24 i     i i   +- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Frank Slootweg
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15 Oct 24 i     i `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.31noel
16 Oct 24 i     i  `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.30Eric M
16 Oct 24 i     i   +- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Frank Slootweg
16 Oct 24 i     i   +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.21Retro Guy
16 Oct 24 i     i   i`- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.20Eric M
17 Oct 24 i     i   `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.7noel
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17 Oct 24 i     i     +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.3Jean-Paul
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6 Oct 24  i+* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.5Père Sonnes
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6 Oct 24  ii `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.2Père Sonnes
6 Oct 24  ii  `- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1D
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6 Oct 24  i `* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.2Thomas Alexandre
6 Oct 24  i  `- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Père Sonnes
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6 Oct 24   +* Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.2Père Sonnes
6 Oct 24   +- Re: Multiple abuses from i2pn2.1Thomas Alexandre
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