Re: Abusive deletion of groups on fr

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:12:29 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

Le 30/11/24 à 01:59, D a écrit :

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each
fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has
drunk).

 
just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows
over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military

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There is 1 year less on i2pn2, but much more on csiph (since 2015), all
readable, especially in Russian, archives in Arabic. Often, an nntp
server offers a long list of message titles but their content is
inaccessible, the sysop decides, nntp sysops are rarely reliable or
trade in binaries, the best free servers have closed. That's why fido
could be reborn ...

about one dozen free (public nntp) newsservers currently operational that
carry the common text hierarchy (40,000+ newsgroups) . . . "csiph" is new
to me:

(using Tor Browser 14.0.3)
http://csiph.com/

Free public NNTP/Usenet access at
news://nntp.csiph.com/comp.sys.ibm.ps2.harware
or drop by on your favorite provider!
This local server caries the entire text hierarchy.
...
Connected Peerings
 news.bbs.nz
 erje
 Eternal September
 individual.net
 snorky.mixmin.net
 neodome.net
 news.samoylyk.net
 swapon.de
 tnetconsulting.net
 usenet.pasdenom.info
 news.weretis.net
 xmission

[end quoted excerpts]

(using Tor Browser 14.0.3)
http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=nntp.csiph.com&btnsubmit=Go

Server: nntp.csiph.com (45321)

                         ^^^^^
5896 articles, oldest article dated 2016/10/1 . . . i tested several other
active newsgroups with server "nntp.csiph.com" (localhost 119/tor browser)
and it appears to have excellent article retention (oldest date 2015/06/02
in a.p.n. . . 77,000+ articles!); thanks for the tip, added to server list

Is fido moderated? Sometimes. This moderator is omnipresent: Approved:
gateway@fido7.ru
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How to access? Fortunately, gogle-groups this parasite has been stopped,
there are still gateways apparently (there are quite a few remailed
messages, see the encapsulated-remailing method). Russia and Crimea seem
to have hosts, you would have to find a recent fidonet directory then
the phone number of the BBS or its DNS address. fido7.f400.link ?
>
https://bbs.fandom.com/wiki/FidoNet#FidoNet_availability
https://www.fidonet.org
They say: Use telnet for fidonet. It's a good idea, but BBSs allow you
to bypass the internet.
>
More info in the active groups and their FAQs, everything is in Russian
(google-translate doesn't like it). The West has disowned fido, for
convenience.
>
fido7.f400.link increments a counter in the routing over time, new
nodes? There would be 334 (where?), it's plausible.
>
Fido has its nomenclature xzone.xxxcounty.xxxnode.xxxxpoint plus
remailers, no need for DNS since it originally went through BBSs
(telephone). You can even go through amateur radio.
>
Some explanations and political information on fido7.ru.anarchy
>

snip

thanks for the detailed description . . . i'll read more as time permits,
especially because usenet servers carry so many of these fido newsgroups

however, the oldest article for this newsgroup (fido7.ru.military) on
the server (news.blueworldhosting.com) is dated 2022/03/22 ~three and
one-half years old, which suggests "fidonet.org" approved articles to
this popular moderated newsgroup expire before the server's longevity
of about twenty-one (21) years, as is evident for enduring newsgroups
i've had very good luck with russian freeware (e.g. https://aimp.ru/)
and websites, but i have no experience with fidonet (only usenet, and
formerly with bbs) . . . because it's moderated, is it like political,
or just common interests in all things military without east vs. west?

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Russia censors websites that offer VPN downloads, I don't know anything
about the rest, but I see remailing, approvals maiby needed for
remailing, and a few groups that have survived for reasons I don't know
(technical means, confidentiality?).

only guessing, but this bbs "fido" network probably seems normal for the
(they say mostly) russian/ukrainian-based users, with politics, religion,
etc. being avoided as much as possible . . . like everyone else is doing