Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation

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Sujet : Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation
De : mm (at) *nospam* dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Groupes : news.groups
Date : 16. Jun 2025, 20:38:32
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Message-ID : <20250616213832.574b5a9f@ryz.dorfdsl.de>
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On 16.06.2025 15:37 Uhr Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
15.06.2025 17:16 Uhr sticks wrote: 
 
I suggest if you're going to continue in being part of the decision
makers, you get a little thicker skin.  
 
I've had many discussions with him and he has its own opinions, which
is fine. Although, I don't agree with them and I don't see a reason
to discuss with him further, as he is just against anything that is
being done or suggested. For me it looks like he wants that
everything stays as it is, but still complains about the current
state. 
 
That's a straw man.

Please explain that, English is not my first language.

Removal of unused or unusable groups has been done many times and
only a few people complained. 
 
That's not true. Various News administrators have told you not to do
it. While they aren't running archive sites, they are keeping
articles due to long retention policies.

Some didn't like it, but at the end most processed the messages.

Processing your checkgroups would interfere with article retention,
obviously.

That's why every operator can configure that.

You are hearing only what you want to hear and telling us that the
lurkers support you in email.

If that was right, I wouldn't discuss with you here. I heard arguments
against deleting, but I don't agree with them.

Some years ago we had the same discussion in de.*. 
 
Clearly, then, you ignored objections from German speakers who were
not me whilst claiming there were no objections to ignore, My German
isn't conversational, so none of those objections you ignored came
from me.

German hierarchy has a voting system. In the cases I followed, one or
two people voted against deletion.

For example:
https://de.admin.news.announce.narkive.com/gmbjeTiH/1-rfd-de-rec-tv-lindenstrasse-loeschung

It's curious that you don't provide evidence that this action saved
the de.* hierarchy.

If less people want to engage in discussions, it won't go back to the
state 30 years ago.
Although, occasionally new people join and having a working system
where discussion occurs is much better that hundreds of non-working
moderated groups.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
13 Jun 25 * Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation24Paul W. Schleck
14 Jun 25 +* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation2Marco Moock
14 Jun 25 i`- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1D
14 Jun 25 `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation21Rayner Lucas
14 Jun 25  +* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation15Adam H. Kerman
15 Jun 25  i+* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation11Marco Moock
15 Jun 25  ii`* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation10Adam H. Kerman
15 Jun 25  ii +* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation8Marco Moock
15 Jun 25  ii i+- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Adam H. Kerman
15 Jun 25  ii i`* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation6sticks
16 Jun 25  ii i `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation5Marco Moock
16 Jun 25  ii i  `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation4Adam H. Kerman
16 Jun 25  ii i   `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation3Marco Moock
16 Jun 25  ii i    +- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Adam H. Kerman
17 Jun 25  ii i    `- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Thomas Hochstein
17 Jun 25  ii `- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Thomas Hochstein
15 Jun 25  i`* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation3Rayner Lucas
15 Jun 25  i `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation2Adam H. Kerman
19 Jun 25  i  `- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Rayner Lucas
15 Jun 25  `* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation5Computer Nerd Kev
15 Jun 25   +* Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation2Marco Moock
15 Jun 25   i`- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Julien ÉLIE
15 Jun 25   +- Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation1Rayner Lucas
24 Jun 25   `- moderation infrastructure1Ivan Shmakov

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