Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator

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Sujet : Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator
De : ivan (at) *nospam* siamics.netREMOVE.invalid (Ivan Shmakov)
Groupes : news.groups.proposals
Date : 09. May 2025, 11:45:59
Autres entêtes
Organisation : Dbus-free station.
Message-ID : <jmnWF7WTsnTtTQ7m@violet.siamics.net>
References : 1 2 3 4
I've created the following email addresses (currently aliased to
one of my mailboxes) for articles to comp.newprod, comp.simulation,
comp.std.announce and rec.photo.moderated, respectively:

comp-newprod-submit@newsmod.am-1.org
comp-simulation-submit@newsmod.am-1.org
comp-std-announce-submit@newsmod.am-1.org
rec-photo-moderated-submit@newsmod.am-1.org

It's possible to submit articles by email, such as explained in
[1], though see the bottom of this article.

[1] http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Moderated_newsgroups#How_can_I_bypass_my_News_Service_Provider?

I plan to use my existing Eternal September account to inject
the approved articles.  It dawned on me, however, that allowing
that same account to be used by co-moderators (should there be
any), such as via the web interface I intended to deploy, would
perhaps be seen as abuse, so instead I will be providing access
to the queue for the co-moderators to pick articles from there,
and post the approved ones via their own accounts.  (Having an
account that allows posting Approved: articles thus becomes a
requirement for prospective co-moderators.)  Alternatively, I
can add a co-moderator's email to my aliases(5), so they get
copies of new submissions.

Once the Board confirms me as the new moderator, and I'm granted
the permission to post Approved: articles at E-S, I'll post short
announcements to these groups on them now being operational.

I'm going to forgo signing the articles for now, as that does
not /seem/ to be a strict requirement.

In the unlikely case that there'll be significant interest,
I'll consider deploying my own INN instance to be used by
co-moderators.


With regards to submitting articles via email.

First, make sure your message has a proper Newsgroups: header.
(At some point I'm going to configure my Exim instance to
reject emails to the addresses above lacking one.)

Also, it's my recommendation that submitted messages have a
valid email address in the envelope (MAIL FROM:; and preferrably
also a valid DKIM signature) but /not/ in the From: header,
as the latter is indexed in the newsserver overview data (OVER
/ XOVER), making it easy for abusers to harvest.

On a Unix-like system with properly configured mail delivery,
the following example /usr/sbin/sendmail invocation can be used
as a starting point (tested on Debian GNU/Linux "Bookworm", but
if I'm reading sendmail(1) correctly, it should also work on
NetBSD just as well):

$ cat < newspost
From: Alice <alice@nowhere.invalid>
Reply-To: Alice <alice@example.net>
Newsgroups: example.newsgroup
Message-Id: <k9jluEK3D9GNCJR-yKcIdRiIsWgOR792@example.invalid>
Date: Fri, 09 May 2025 08:24:48 +0000
Subject: test

This is a test message.
$ /usr/sbin/sendmail \
      -f alice@example.net \
      example-newsgroup-submit@example.com \
      < newspost


Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Mar 25 * 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator40Usenet Big-8 Management Board
11 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator17Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Richard Heathfield
12 Mar 25 ii`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Marco Moock
12 Mar 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 ii `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator10D Finnigan
12 Mar 25 ii+- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Marco Moock
12 Mar 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator8Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 ii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator7Richard Heathfield
12 Mar 25 ii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator6Richard Harnden
12 Mar 25 ii   `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5Keith Thompson
13 Mar 25 ii    `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Dan Cross
13 Mar 25 ii     `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Keith Thompson
13 Mar 25 ii      `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Dan Cross
13 Mar 25 ii       `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Marco Moock
20 Mar 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Rayner Lucas
12 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Florian Rehnisch
28 Apr 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
13 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator9Rayner Lucas
13 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator7Paul W. Schleck
13 Mar 25 ii+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5D Finnigan
14 Mar 25 iii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Paul W. Schleck
14 Mar 25 iii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3D Finnigan
14 Mar 25 iii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Paul W. Schleck
15 Mar 25 iii   `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1noel
20 Mar 25 ii`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Rayner Lucas
13 Mar 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1D Finnigan
13 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator8Ivan Shmakov
28 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator6Tristan Miller
27 Apr 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5Ivan Shmakov
9 May 25 ii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Ivan Shmakov
9 May 25 ii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Tristan Miller
13 May 25 ii   `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Ivan Shmakov
21 May 25 ii    `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
27 Apr 25 i`- Re: restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce1Marco Moock
30 Mar 25 +- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
24 Apr 25 `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2tidux
8 May 25  `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Big-8 Management Board

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