Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator

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Sujet : Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator
De : pschleck (at) *nospam* panix.com (Paul W. Schleck)
Groupes : news.groups.proposals news.groups
Date : 14. Mar 2025, 12:16:23
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In <vquse4$3d1t6$1@dont-email.me> D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> writes:

On 3/13/25 8:42 AM, Paul W. Schleck wrote:
>
 
- Ethical considerations
 
What if you just wind up automatically relaying off-topic material and
SPAM?  What if some or all of the content is unlawful [...]
I expect that a reasonable person would shut off the robo-moderator in
that event.

I expect that a reasonable person would not be able to react in time to
an unpredictable and short-duration SPAM or flooding incident and the
automatically approved articles would post to the newsgroups unimpeded.
For a slow or no traffic newsgroup, the approved articles would be
mostly or all SPAM and flooding, which still exists on moderator
submission addresses, even post-Google Groups.  Shutting off the
robo-moderator would be closing the gate after the horse bolted.

Do we expect the administrators of this robomoderation gateway to employ
sophisticated monitoring and alerting, and that they would respond
quickly to any incident, 24/7?  That's a lot to ask.  Furthermore, if
they do shut off the robo-moderator, what do they do with any rejected
submissions after shutoff?  Dump all of them?  Queue them up to manually
go through them to pick out only the approvable ones?

Such a service would realistically have to employ monitoring/alerting,
SPAM filtering, keyword trapping, duplicate detection, rate limiting,
and manual review of any queued articles for false positives. This is
starting to resemble the duties of a human moderator, and a significant
workload for one volunteer long-term.

--
Paul W. Schleck
pschleck@panix.com


Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Mar 25 * 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator40Usenet Big-8 Management Board
11 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator17Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Richard Heathfield
12 Mar 25 ii`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Marco Moock
12 Mar 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 ii `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator10D Finnigan
12 Mar 25 ii+- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Marco Moock
12 Mar 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator8Keith Thompson
12 Mar 25 ii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator7Richard Heathfield
12 Mar 25 ii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator6Richard Harnden
12 Mar 25 ii   `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5Keith Thompson
13 Mar 25 ii    `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Dan Cross
13 Mar 25 ii     `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Keith Thompson
13 Mar 25 ii      `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Dan Cross
13 Mar 25 ii       `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Marco Moock
20 Mar 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Rayner Lucas
12 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Florian Rehnisch
28 Apr 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
13 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator9Rayner Lucas
13 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator7Paul W. Schleck
13 Mar 25 ii+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5D Finnigan
14 Mar 25 iii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Paul W. Schleck
14 Mar 25 iii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3D Finnigan
14 Mar 25 iii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Paul W. Schleck
15 Mar 25 iii   `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1noel
20 Mar 25 ii`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Rayner Lucas
13 Mar 25 i`- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1D Finnigan
13 Mar 25 +* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator8Ivan Shmakov
28 Mar 25 i+* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator6Tristan Miller
27 Apr 25 ii`* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator5Ivan Shmakov
9 May 25 ii `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator4Ivan Shmakov
9 May 25 ii  `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator3Tristan Miller
13 May 25 ii   `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2Ivan Shmakov
21 May 25 ii    `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
27 Apr 25 i`- Re: restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce1Marco Moock
30 Mar 25 +- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Tristan Miller
24 Apr 25 `* Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator2tidux
8 May 25  `- Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator1Big-8 Management Board

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