Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike

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Date : 24. Jul 2024, 18:39:48
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 12:55:00 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/23/2024 12:27 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 07:56:32 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
<mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
 
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:01:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>
xkcd: CrowdStrike
     https://www.xkcd.com/2961/
>
Make the best of bad times.
>
Explained at:
     https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2961:_CrowdStrike
>
Lynn
>
Was anybody here affected by the CrowdStrike Thing?
My nephew's wife flew to Europe that day without incident.
 
Not here. But then, I don't do that much on the Web. And I use Windows
10's security, which was not affected.
 
I saw an article where Microsoft was blaming the EU for forcing them
to allow 3rd-party access to the Kernal, which they claim is what
enabled the update to do bad things. If that is true, they may have a
point.
>
That requires a belief that Microsoft isn't just as capable of this
of SNAFU.

No it does not. But, if true, it /does/ mean that regulators trying to
break the Windows monopoly on certain classes of programs (well, what
those regulators perceive as a monopoly, anyway) need to consider how
risky what they are requiring is.

Allowing anybody who writes a security program to modify the kernal
does not sound particularly safe to me.

I don't have that belief.

Well, neither do I. At last! Agreement!

IIRC, there have been Win10 updates that produced problems similar to
this. Except, instead of not booting at all, the machines affected
booted again ... and again ... and again ... and again ...
Which is really just as bad.

But I've never been affected by them ... so far.

I did have to block a program I compile myself, generally at least
once a day, from Microsoft Defender because it flagged it:

6/16/23 (Severe – Quarantined):
Detected: Trojan:Win32/Sabsik.FL.B!ml
file: C:\ow\ow\bld\wgml\win32\wgml.exe

It was doing this sort of thing with a /lot/ of files that hadn't been
changed or recompiled for a long long time, but I didn't bother with
blocking those. It's not presently doing this, so apparently it was
"false positive" problem. Perhaps someone thought that a particular
executable file header was unique to viruses.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Jul 24 * xkcd: CrowdStrike93Lynn McGuire
23 Jul 24 +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike91Charles Packer
23 Jul 24 i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1G
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3D
23 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
24 Jul 24 ii `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1D
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Scott Dorsey
23 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Mark Jackson
24 Jul 24 ii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 ii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike32Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike9Cryptoengineer
24 Jul 24 iii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike8Paul S Person
24 Jul 24 iii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 iii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike6Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 iii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 iii    `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 iii     `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 iii      `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Scott Dorsey
27 Jul 24 iii       `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike10Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Jaimie Vandenbergh
25 Jul 24 iiii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Dimensional Traveler
26 Jul 24 iiii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Gary R. Schmidt
26 Jul 24 iiii `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Jaimie Vandenbergh
25 Jul 24 iii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 iii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Lynn McGuire
26 Jul 24 iii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
26 Jul 24 iii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
27 Jul 24 iii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
27 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike12Lynn McGuire
27 Jul 24 ii +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Paul S Person
28 Jul 24 ii i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
28 Jul 24 ii i +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2D
28 Jul 24 ii i i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
28 Jul 24 ii i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 ii +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Robert Carnegie
1 Aug 24 ii i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Mike Van Pelt
2 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Mike Van Pelt
3 Aug 24 ii    `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Cryptoengineer
24 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Mad Hamish
24 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
24 Jul 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
24 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
25 Jul 24 ii   `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike42BCFD 36
1 Aug 24 ii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike40Your Name
2 Aug 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike39Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii  +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike36Lynn McGuire
3 Aug 24 ii  i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike35Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike33Your Name
4 Aug 24 ii  i i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike29Lynn McGuire
4 Aug 24 ii  i ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike20Your Name
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2vallor
4 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Cryptoengineer
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike14Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike13Your Name
5 Aug 24 ii  i iiii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike12Paul S Person
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike11Your Name
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Titus G
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Paul S Person
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii    `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike6Your Name
7 Aug 24 ii  i iiii     `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Paul S Person
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii      `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii       `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii        `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i iiii         `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
5 Aug 24 ii  i ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike8D
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Robert Carnegie
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4D
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Your Name
10 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2D
10 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1D
4 Aug 24 ii  i i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
9 Aug 24 ii  i i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Robert Carnegie
9 Aug 24 ii  i i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Titus G
4 Aug 24 ii  i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Mark Jackson
3 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
3 Aug 24 ii   `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Jay E. Morris
24 Jul 24 `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Gary R. Schmidt

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