Re: RTD tells us how he’s going to just move forward

The Spammer <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

In article <v18grd$1vts5$1@dont-email.me>,
The Loon<agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

On 04/05/2024 18:26, The Last Doctor wrote:

At the premiere cinema showing of the opening of the new season, RTD had
this to say:
 
"I think The Timeless Child doesn’t mean anything to anyone, to a lot of
viewers. Genuinely, to a few outside the show – what does that mean? But
what it does mean is the Doctor’s an orphan, he was abandoned, he was
adopted by the Time Lords, so you play that for the emotions.

 
Oh yes, a child from another culture that was abducted, neglected, left
to die, experimented on, repeatedly murdered,

Yep, there was definitely some pure evil done to that child by Tecteun. Of
course, we have no idea what anyone other than Tecteun actually knew about
that.

and turned into an agent
of evil, a mass murdering genocidal maniac.

This, however, is just lunatic invention from Aggie. There is a narrative
in the show suggesting that the Doctor worked for a “Black Ops” Division of
Time Lord security. But no indication that the Doctor did anything
personally evil and absolutely not one word about the Doctor committing
even one murder, let alone being a genocidal maniac.

 

"I don't want to hang things off science fiction words, that simply won't
mean anything around the breakfast table. But, if you're talking about a
family with a world in which people adopt children, or foster children, or
abandoned children, then suddenly it begins to register with you. So that's
our take on that.
"And that's going to have a lot of ammunition and fuel going forward.
Because it goes Millie as Ruby Sunday, she was abandoned as a family on the
church doorstep. So you have the Doctor and companion suddenly chiming with
their lives connecting."

 
I don't give a fuck about her or the child grooming pervert.

Aggie is on some serious insane kick. Who is this “child grooming pervert”
he’s going on about? What evidence does he have that whoever this is, is a
“child grooming pervert”? Apart from those voices in his head?

There's
nothing for the majority of people to identify with or aspire two in
either of those characters.

Nothing positive about the Doctor? Nothing positive about an adopted child
who seems to have grown up into a healthy, happy young woman? Aggie doesn’t
seem to have a clue who he thinks he’s talking about, and certainly knows
nothing about “the majority of people”. He’s barely an expert on lunatic
racist middle aged incels who live in basement flats in Northampton, and
there’s no evidence that there’s more than ONE of them, let alone that they
are representative of “the majority of people”.

Ruby should have been an ordinary person,
from an ordinary home, living an ordinary life, like everyone else.

Why? In any case, this is pretty much what we are told about her, apart
from the oddity of how she was left and the goblins’ interest in her -
which is the cause of the Doctor’s interest in her.

Then
her life changes from the ordinary when she meets the Doctor,

Which is what she does.

not a
child grooming pervert

What “child grooming pervert”? This imaginary character Aggie keeps
bringing up is seriously interfering with his ability to make a genuine
argument.

and after undergoing new struggles and through a
heroic journey she learns new lessons and aspires to become someone
better than before.

Maybe she will. Who knows? We’ve only seen her introductory meet-cute with
the Doctor.

Gibson and Gatwa have shown us nothing about
learning, heroism, and wisdom. It's all nothing more than mind numbing
soap opera, bigoted left-wing lecturing, attempts to sexually groom
children, cartoon logic and magic instead of science, reason, and using
you mind to overcome adversity.

I see Aggie has already written his “review” of eight episodes he hasn’t
seen yet (as well as the one he has seen but utterly failed to understand).

So - no retcon. RTD is basically going to ignore the Timeless Child per se,
but play on the idea of the Doctor being originally a foundling adopted by
the Time Lords. So it’s still there - but just as background motivation.
 
I can live with that.

 
Only if you condone systematic child abuse and murder.

Being OK with moving on from a story that hasn’t even been told is
absolutely not the same as condoning the abuse that was done to the
Timeless Child.

For all we know, Tecteun was arraigned by the Time Lords and imprisoned for
a million years, the Doctor was counselled and allowed to live a new life
in reparation, and other events we have seen have not been explained.

But as it was all so badly done, I’d rather move on than revisit any of it.

Spot on AGA!

Dave, look again. The only spot Aggie is on is the worn spot in the carpet
in the dunce’s corner of the slow learners’ class.

--
“The timelines and … canon … are rupturing” - the Doctor