Re: Doctor Who: RTD in the Radio Times.

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Sujet : Re: Doctor Who: RTD in the Radio Times.
De : agamemnon (at) *nospam* hello.to.NO_SPAM (The True Doctor)
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Date : 18. Jun 2024, 01:09:43
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On 17/06/2024 21:48, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
 
On 17/06/2024 20:28, Blueshirt wrote:
>
Most fans of a TV show do not switch it off after twenty
seconds... you are constantly inventing false narratives to
back up your delusional figures.
>
Fans? I'm not talking about fans, I'm talking about viewers?
10 seconds of viewing time is all it takes to count someone as
a viewers.
 Doctor Who has fans too, believe it or not, quite a lot of
them... and they would generally watch until the end of the
episode. (They might skip the credits though, I do.)
 
Are the official ratings not low enough for you?
>
My figures are statistically accurate and represent real
viewer behaviour as opposed to your delusional fantasies. 99%
of viewers only watch for barely over 10 seconds and then
they're gone to see if something else is any better. Divide
the viewing figures by 100 and that's approximately how many
people have actually watch the entire episode. That is what is
bourn out by YouTube and every YouTuber knows this and also
knows it applies to ordinary television too.
>
Going by Doomcocks figures only 50,000 people watched the
first 2 episodes. That's 25,000 an episode and 99% of that is
people dropped out at various points and for various reasons
before the episode ended. Did you actually watch Doomcocks
video until the end because it's obvious you missed his main
point. 99% of the audience did not finish the whole episode.
He could have derived it from his YouTube statistics which are
no different to mine as a 10,000 viewer sample is perfectly
good enough statistically. 99% of the audience left before it
ended. Only 25,000/100 people watched the episode from start
to finish. That's only 250 people. That's the real audience of
Doctor Whoke. Even in the UK only 200,000 people watched the
last episode from start to finish. What's Doctor Whoke's real
audience figure.
 "Going by Doomcock's figures" is probably where you are going
wrong, as I suspect they are just made up. If so, the base
figure for your statistics would be wrong, which would then mean
your guesstimate would be wrong too.
 Unless Doomcock can prove otherwise, his figures are just OTT
claims to attract viewers and likes for his channel. If he is
the one making the claim he needs to back his figures up with a
source. You wouldn't trust a history book that didn't list its
sources, but you blindly follow what a guy in a mask says on
YouTube?!
And yet the show runner wants us to believe Isaac Newton was an Indian.
Who is more credible as a source of accurate information? Doomcock or RTD? I say Doomcock.

 
Let Disney+ publish their numbers along with total duration
viewed and let the BBC do the same, otherwise my and
Doomcock's estimates stick. Doomcock after all said most
viewers tuned out for various reasons before each episode
ended.
>
How could anyone, apart from Disney, know that somebody gave
up on an episode of Doctor Who before the end? It's not
possible
>
Because Disney collects viewer stats the same way YouTube
does. It's 100% possible. Only 1% of viewers finish the
episode.
 Stop being stupid. 99% of the people who sit down to watch
Disney + and then click on an episode of Doctor Who do not
switch off half way through. Why would they? They made a choice
Wrong. My YouTube statistics show that they don't. Only 1% watches all the way through. Doomcock's alleged inside source says much the same thing. Most viewers stopped watching before each episode ended.

to click on a Doctor Who episode. It's not like flicking through
I made lots of choices to click on Prime Video episodes. Most I did not watch. Some it was to rewind to recap on the previous episode before watching the next and that only lasted about 10 seconds.

channels on a Sky box, you can't land on Doctor Who by accident!
Yes it is. You can land on Doctor Whoke by clicking on an ad. Then you watch 10 seconds and figure out it's woke crap so stop watching. See, you've shot yourself in the foot. This must be what Doomcock is talking about.

It's possible some people might not like an episode and decide
to watch something else, but 99% of its viewers? Nah, not having
it. That's a ludicrous claim.
It's 99%. That's why my and probably Doomcock's YouTube statistics both show. I don't like it that hardly any of my 11,000 viewers are watching all the way through or even for one round of combat, but I know it's true.

 
for anyone to know this sort of thing, unless they have
access to official Disney streaming data, which they
themselves rarely even publish!!! But, a guy on the internet
KNOWS!
>
It's called statistical extrapolation. Doomcock has a YouTube
channel and that channel has stats just like mine does and
just like Disney+. The general trend of the statistics is
exactly the same. Doomcock being intelligent can easily work
this out from his only channel's statistics just like I did
from mine. Only 1% of viewers finish watching each episode.
That was the entire point of Doomcock's video.
 Videos on YouTube channels are not TV shows on a streaming
platform, with a story that keeps people engaged. Doomcock's
Statistically they are identical and most people are more likely to watch a round of combat than crap, degenerate, badly written woke soap opera written for women and political lecturing. Especially when 80-90% of the audience are men.

YouTube channel is not Doctor Who... he'd have to have a base
But it's about Doctor Who and it gets more views than virtually every other Doctor Who channel including the official BBC Doctor Who channel.

figure of Doctor Who viewers to extrapolate from, but Disney
No, all he has to do is see how many people are watching his videos and figure out how many of them are watching them all the way through by comparing views with total duration watched. Why do you think BARB doesn't publish the total duration watched? It's because only 1% of viewers do that.
Even in the old days when people kept notebooks of what they watched they made most of it up based on suggestions by the person collecting the data and claimed to watch something if they only watched about 30 seconds of it. I've seen it being done.

provides none, so using his YouTube channel's figures is like
comparing Apples and Oranges.
 
No it isn't. It's comparing like for like.

People only turn off videos on YouTube as some creators never
know when to STFU! Some of them go on and on and on. They could
make their point in a more concise way. A lot of them just love
the sound of their own voice and think their opinions are the
only one that counts... hence why people switch them off!
People watch YouTube commentators because those commentors reflect their own likes and dislikes and views and opinions unlike the shills and gritters that write reviews for the access media.
Either way because the videos are advertised to everyone 99% of the viewers barely watch for 1 minute at most on average and then turn off. That's how advertising works. Only 1% of your intended audience at most actually buys your product. Most of the time it's more like 0.1% or 0.01% or less.

 
Methinks there is going to be some major goal-post shifting
going on if Disney extend their partnership with the BBC for
more seasons of Doctor Who...
>
(I will bookmark your posts so that we can revisit this
discussion if/when that scenario happens!)
>
So far not one single platform streaming or cable has renewed
it's contract with the BBC for Doctor Whoke. Don't expect
Disney to be any different. The viewing figures have been
totally appalling ever since Doctor Who went totally woke.
 You could be in for a surprise... stay tuned.
I doubt it. No one is watching on Disney+. We know that from comparison with Whittaker's ratings on BBC America which could only manage 100,000 viewers per episode (ie. 1,000 people watching all the way through) by the time she and Chibnall were both sacked.
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The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner

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