Re: Why WAS the 6th Doctor era SO BAD?!

On 12/01/2025 09:42, John Hall wrote:

In message <vlv2md$re1k$3@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes

On 1/11/2025 1:00 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 1/11/2025 10:09 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vlsi7d$a8vm$1@dont-email.me>, The True Doctor
<agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> writes
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This stupid imbecilic degeneracy was copied by the moron Steven Moffat
for the character of the 12th Doctor and that finally killed the series
off completely after Capaldi got Clara killed for nothing after making
both characters not get on with each other and then got Bill Potts
killed off for nothing as well, as well as Capaldi. Oh, and don't
forgery he effectively killed off Amy and Rory too.

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I always felt that the rationale for the Doctor not being able to rescue
Amy and Rory because for some tenuous reason he couldn't visit NY at the
particular time they'd been sent to didn't really hold weather. He could
visit some earlier time or different place and arrange for a message to
be sent to them, telling them to take a train to, say, Chicago, where
he'd be able to pick them up.

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Agreed, there had to be some workarounds. At least they could have brought
some up and explained why they wouldn’t work.
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I thought it was that those time-shifted by the Angels could never time
travel afterwards.
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 No, they were just trapped in a zone that the doctor couldn’t go to.
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Can someone remind/enlighten me on _why_ The Doctor couldn't go there?
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 I don't recall that a convincing explanation was ever given. I suspect that even Steven Moffat didn't know. It was just that a way had to be found to write out Amy and Rory, and this was what he came up with.
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Moern Doctor Who seems to have adopted a sort of "probability collapse" model  for time travel (except when the writers break their rules). Events are changeable, but become fixed for a specific observer once they are observed by that observer. (In addition to the "fixed points in time" that Time Lords perceive in some unexplained manner and are immutable - except when the writers choose to break their rules ["The Fires of Pompeii"]).
In this case, once the Doctor had seen Amy and Rory's names on gravestones, their lifetimes were set. So although the Doctor COULD technically visit them again, he couldn't imperil them or take them off though time and space, for fear of unravelling the Web of Time.
That's as close to a "reasonable" explanation as I can come up with.
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