Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"

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De : Jdchase310 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Jordy)
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Date : 04. Apr 2025, 15:46:15
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:35:20 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:42:55 +0000, Jordy wrote:
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Will Dockery wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 5:10:07 +0000, Jordy wrote:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 4:59:41 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQyolQMnelM
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Good choice, Jordy.
I read a book by Octavio Paz several years ago.
Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And
"The History of Modern
Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where
Steven Watson seems to
have gotten most of his information) about the
movement that took off around
1910 (and not before in any major way, although the
form can be traced back
as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of
Revolt" aka "Free
Versers".
Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most
famous poets of this
group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute
Rhythm/, that is [...]
poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being
expressed..."
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The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for
the new poets, the
writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers"
and vers librists, because
they championed the rise of free verse, which
replaced fixed stanzas, meter
and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called
it.
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In addition, there were other distinctive factions
during 1910-1917 and
beyond...
The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel
Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists
all fit under the
generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of
Revolt, the Free-Versers.
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Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
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Richard Aldington
Amy Lowell
Vacel Lindsay
Harry Kemp
Donald Evans
Allen Norton
Louise Norton
H.D.
Mina Loy
William Carlos Williams
Alfred Kreymborg
Ezra Pound
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In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917
Sinclair Lewis wrote:
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"It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
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Greatest of the old school not to be forgotten......
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Ping: Jordy:
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I'm reading of another from that great generation of
poets, Octavio Paz:
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https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1974/05/16/dazzling-and-dizzying/
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"This is the mirror that devours mirrors..." -Octavio
Paz, “Masks of Dawn”
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"Playful and pompous by turns, cosmopolitan, provincial,
lucid, hazy, brave, evasive, Octavio Paz is the Platonic idea of a Latin
American intellectual; and not the least of his achievements is to fill
with charm and distinction and irony that difficult and wearying role.
For the intellectual in Latin America is critic, clown, priest, radical
agitator, and Victorian school-master all at once"a man for far too many
seasons. He must evaluate the past, scoff at the present, bless new
movements in literature and art, discreetly encourage the right kind of
revolution, and compose ritual letters of recommendation for his country
and countrymen. Among other things..."
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Thanks Will
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Great to see you, my friend.
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Bonjour Will
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Hello there my friend, great to see you again tonight.
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Hola Will
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Good afternoon again my friend.
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Ciao Will
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Hello again my friend.
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This is a response to the post seen at:
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=660625304#660625304
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       Shalom Will
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Good morning again my friend.
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       Bonjour Will
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Great to see you again today, Jordy.
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        Hola Mr Will
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Good afternoon again my friend.
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     Ciao Will
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--
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Great to see your again my friend.
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       Shalom Will
>
--
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Hello there my friend
        Bonjour Will
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Mar 25 * Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"11W.Dockery
18 Mar 25 `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"10Jordy
19 Mar 25  `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"9W.Dockery
20 Mar 25   `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"8Jordy
29 Mar 25    `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"7W.Dockery
2 Apr 25     `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"6Jordy
3 Apr 25      `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"5W.Dockery
4 Apr 25       `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"4Jordy
4 Apr 25        `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"3W.Dockery
6 Apr 25         `* Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"2Jordy
7 Apr 25          `- Re: "New Poetic Visions: Octavio Paz"1W.Dockery

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