Re: Charles Bukowski - Bluebird reading

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Sujet : Re: Charles Bukowski - Bluebird reading
De : will.dockery (at) *nospam* gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Date : 20. Dec 2024, 15:43:12
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General-Zod wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
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George J. Dance wrote:
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On 2022-07-21 7:00 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:51:22 PM UTC, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
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Bukowski reads "Bluebird":
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https://youtu.be/lyMS4qJ8NXU
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It's really just a paragraph or two being read.
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No, it's not 'just" a prose paragraph. Just from Bukowski's reading, you
can tell he's reading a poem: you can hear the line breaks.
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That said, we don't like the last line ("But I don't weep, do you?").
It reminds us of a former first lady's coat, which said "I don't really
care, do you?" although the Bukowski quote predates that.
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I don't know, but I'd bet it was her husband who said that. That's
always a problem in a poem (when a line or phrase unintentionally echoes
something more familiar, resulting in a mixed image), but it's probably
one that will go away: the Nixons have been consigned to the dustbin of
history, where they belong.
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Having the line end with "do you?" is a totally obvious choice and hurts
the poem.
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It may detract from the poem for some; it turns it from a purely
introspective piece into a didactic or 'message' poem. But there's
nothing wrong with didacticism per se. And I admire Bukowski for going
there.
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I think "Bluebird" was written as a spoken piece (from all that
repetition); that Bukowski was considering his audience, whom he was
writing for; and that his audience -- tough guys, hard workers and hard
drinkers, rebels without a cause -- are the men most likely to have
their own bluebird problem, and (for the same reason) most likely to
suppress that knowledge.
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Like Carl Sandburg before him (and others), Charles Bukowski was truly a
"poet of the people".
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Most definitely....!
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 He cannot count on that sort of man (he knows,
since he's been one himself) to just suddenly think, "Gee, he's not only
talking about himself -- he's talking about a general truth about man,
which might be true of me as well." Especially in a spoken reading,
where he and his audience will have passed on to another poem a few
moments later. For the poem to be most effective, he has to give his
audience that thought explicitly.
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Good find.

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