Re: The Return of Michael Monkey

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Sujet : Re: The Return of Michael Monkey
De : mpsilvertone (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (HarryLime)
Groupes : alt.arts.poetry.comments rec.arts.poems
Date : 21. Jan 2025, 22:58:22
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:52:19 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 19:02:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 2:44:47 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:29:37 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:07:47 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:47:06 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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OTOH, I have always been fair and balanced in my reviews of poetry
posted to AAPC.  Go back and browse through the "comments" on the old
"Sunday Samplers."
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Michael, I vaguely remember your reviews of my poems; I had no problem
with those, but you wrote them years before you put me on your "Team
Donkey" list of perceived adversaries. They should be compared with
reviews of my poetry that you've given afterward.
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You vaguely remember something I wrote last week in this thread?
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Michael: you did not write your ''comments" on the old
"Sunday Samplers" just 'last week in this thread'. You wrote them more
than 7 years ago.
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It's evident that you have problems with dating, chronology, and the
whole  concept of time, but this is your most egregious example yet.
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I realize that you're incapable of scrolling through a thread, but if
you were to scroll up (in *this* thread) to a post I'd made on January
10 (2025), you would have read the following:
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George's triolet is a classic example of a *formal* poem.  It has a
fixed set of rules, and it adheres to them diligently.
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As a poet, George has always been a skillful craftsman; and his poem is
a well-executed example of the triolet form.
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In this regard, you and George may be viewed as complete opposites, as
your "poetry" is embarrassingly inept (painfully so) -- even when one
takes into account that it is "free verse," and therefore has no rules.
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Where George has a strong understanding of poetic form, and fairly
strong understanding of the English language, you are unable to compose
in complete sentences, constantly mix tenses, misuse words, and randomly
refer to names and places from your personal life without providing any
explanation to your supposed readers.
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That said, George's main problem as a poet is that he lacks inspiration,
imagination, and style.  George's poems, at their best, are as memorable
as Hallmark cards.  His thoughts and themes are maudlin and mundane, and
when he ventures into didacticism, he's merely parroting Ayn Rand's
Objectivist philosophy.  IOW: He is the epitome of mediocrity.
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AAPC is a usenet group that is currently monopolized by a high school
drop out turned songwriter whose years of drug and alcohol abuse have
taken their toll on his intellect (assuming that he ever possessed one);
a homeless drunk arrested for indecent exposure, belligerence, and God
know what else, whose "poetry" rhymes everything with "red" and "blue";
and a retard who SCREAMS about President Trump and masturbates over his
nephew, who has never written a poem in his life.  George Dance is far
and away the best poet still posting there.
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As to George's triolet: his word choice, unfortunately, renders it
self-contradictory (although one easily understands his intent).
Understanding an author's intent is *not* an excuse for poorly expressed
thoughts.  His message starts out well (everyone starts out with
unlimited possibilities, which life chisels away over the course of
time), only to end with the cringingly maudlin idea of justifying one's
own failed potential by looking to the unlimited possibilities of one's
offspring.
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I had originally thought that George was trying to say that while we (as
examples of unfulfilled possibility) look to our children's potential to
justify our failure, we are only kidding ourselves, because life will
inevitably destroy their possibilities as well.  Regrettably, George has
since stated that such was not his intent.  I have since adjusted my own
views on his poem accordingly.
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[END QUOTE]
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That's just a rehash of things you've already said, in defence of your
calling yet another poem of mine "illiterate" this week. I koow you're
in love with your own words, so it's understandable you'e like to post
them over and over. But not only does it have nothing to do with
literacy, it has nothing to do with the Sunday Sampler. So let me ask a
follow-up question:
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WTF is wrong with you, MMP?
Earth to George Dance: You can't change the content of my statements
simply by snipping them prior to replying.
You may *think* you can, but anyone who has been reading the thread (or
who is savvy enough to scroll up to check the original post) will see
through your duplicity.
You keep pretending that my statement pertained solely to "The Sunday
Sampler."  And it appears to do just that -- when you cut the second and
third paragraphs and quote it out of context.
Here's what I *actually wrote*:
[START QUOTE]
OTOH, I have always been fair and balanced in my reviews of poetry
posted to AAPC.  Go back and browse through the "comments" on the old
"Sunday Samplers."  I provided in depth critiques on all of the poems,
and pointed out when poems submitted by my so-called "allies" didn't
work.
The only "bias" in my reviews was that when critiquing an incompetent
"poem" by an incompetent, illiterate buffoon like Mr. Donkey, I adopted
a humorous tone.
And, FWIW, I have provided my feelings regarding yours and Mr. Donkey's
poetry in my previous post in this thread.  Again, I feel that my
evaluation is both fair and balanced.  Anyone seeking proof of said
fairness need only scroll up a bit in this thread.
[END QUOTE]
As you can see, I was referring you to what was then "my previous post"
-- which I kindly reposted for you above.
As to said quote, it is not just a "rehash" of my comments regarding the
illiterate nature of your triolet.  It is a statement regarding your
work in general.  And, as I said, a close reading will show you that
this is true. I praise your technical skill, but find your content
commonplace, maudlin, sentimental, and generally uninspired.
What you write, you usually write very well.  Unfortunately, your poems
fail to hold my interest.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Dec 24 * The Return of Michael Monkey145George J. Dance
23 Dec 24 +- Re: The Return of Swamp Ass Georgie Dance1Ted
24 Dec 24 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Dec 24 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
2 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
3 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey98W.Dockery
10 Jan 25 i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
11 Jan 25 ii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
13 Jan 25 i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey95George J. Dance
13 Jan 25 i +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey61HarryLime
14 Jan 25 i i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey30George J. Dance
14 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
14 Jan 25 i iii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1Rudy Canoza
15 Jan 25 i ii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey27HarryLime
16 Jan 25 i ii +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i ii +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i ii i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
17 Jan 25 i ii `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey23George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i ii  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey22HarryLime
21 Jan 25 i ii   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey21George J. Dance
21 Jan 25 i ii    +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4HarryLime
23 Jan 25 i ii    i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i ii    i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i ii    i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
26 Jan 25 i ii    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey16W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey15George J. Dance
26 Jan 25 i ii      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i ii       i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey9HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       i +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i ii       i i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       i i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i    `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii       i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i ii       i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
23 Jan 25 i i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey29George J. Dance
23 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5George J. Dance
23 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
24 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
24 Jan 25 i iii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
24 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey22HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
25 Jan 25 i iiii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i iiii `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i iii `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey11W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i iii   +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii   i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey7HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i iii     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii       `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i iii        `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i iii         `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
14 Jan 25 i +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
16 Jan 25 i +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
16 Jan 25 i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey31W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey30George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey29W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i    +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
17 Jan 25 i    i+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i    i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey23George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey15W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey14HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey13W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey11W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey9W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey7HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i       `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i        `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
30 Jan 25 i     i         `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 i     i          `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
30 Jan 25 i     i           +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1Rudy Canoza
30 Jan 25 i     i           `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
31 Jan 25 i     +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
1 Feb 25 i     `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
4 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
11 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
22 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey16W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
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