Re: The Return of Michael Monkey

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Sujet : Re: The Return of Michael Monkey
De : George J. Dance (at) *nospam* novabbs.com (George J. Dance)
Groupes : alt.arts.poetry.comments rec.arts.poems
Date : 25. Jan 2025, 08:13:27
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:30:33 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 1:56:15 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:58:18 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 2:20:10 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:29:37 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:07:47 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:47:06 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
"HarryLime" wrote:
>
Do I have "enemies" here?  That's a strong word.
>
Every member of your "Team Donkey" enemies list - Will, Zod, Jordy,
Rachel, and myself - is posting here.
They aren't the only people you've marked as "enemies" of course - but
you drove all the others away before you made up "Team Donkey".

1) I don't view any of you as enemies, George.  We merely hold different
views as to how AAPC should operate.  I felt that a *poetry* group
should limit the bulk of its discussions to *poetry.*
>
Unfortunately, your posts bely you, MMP. The bulk of what you post here,
even of your "poetry" and your "poetry discussions" is either (1)
scurrilous
gossip about the members
of "Team Donkey" or (2) flame wars with the members of "Team Donkey".
>
FACT: My posts to AAPC FB, do nothing of the sort.
Who cares what you post to your facebook group? We are discussing your
posts here, in aapc. There are multiple examples in this thread alone.
Even in that "critique" of my poetry that you keep reposting, you manage
to call Will an illiterate, Zod homeless, and Jordy a pedophile. that's
what you post here, that's what your NastyGoon used to post, and that's
what your Chimp ended up posting here.
>
If the majority of my posts here are combative, we need to determine why
I should behave one way in the FB group, and the opposite way in the
Usenet one.
That's easy enough to answer. In your faceook group:
(1) the core membership is your Team Monkey allies;
(2) anyone new who joins the group believes that, and looks up to you
as, the learned poet you've tried to pass yourself off as, and as
newbies they aren't likely to challenge you
(3) if despite (2) anyone does happen to challenge you, on anything, you
don't even have to discuss it; you can simply kick them off the group.

The obvious conclusion is that the members of the FB group limit their
discussions to poetry, whereas certain members of the Usenet group
insist on burying any poetry-related conversations under their own
self-serving spam.
Sort of the reverse of Sherlock Holmes: "when you eliminate all which is
both possible and likely, then whatever remains must be the truth."

You felt that it
would be better used as a forum wherein members could exchange greetings
with "Jordy" twenty times a day, every day.
>
Don't be such a peabrain, MMP. Jordy and I post to each other twice a
month,
at best. Otherwise our paths never cross; he doesn't start flame wars,
or
try to disrupt other threads. So whatever he does doesn't bother me; if
he
bothers you so much that you're still obsessing about him, bo back to
your
facebook group and gossip about him with someone who cares.
>
Anyone still following Usenet AAPC is well aware that Jordy makes far
more than two posts a months -- they simply aren't directed to your
attention.
And WTF does that have to do with my "feelings" about the group? If I
felt that the group was the place to post greetings 20 times a day, I'd
be posting greetings 20 times a day. Stop trying to tell me what I think
or feel, when it's obvious bullshit (or, FTM, on the rare occasion that
it isn't).

As to whether I'm "obsessing" over him, I no longer care what he does.
My greeting to him should show you that I'm perfectly fine with his
continued disruption of your group.  It only annoyed me while I was
still a member.
Whether you're "obsessing' over him can be shown by how many times you
keep entioning him, even though he's stayed out of this discussion
completely.
>
Since Google abandoned the
platform, you won out by default.
>
Yet here you are, caught sneaking back onto aapc under a new sock, and
turning to your old tricks: gossip and flame wars. As I've told Jim
before,
your people are as bad as bedbugs; it's almost impossible to get rid of
you.
>
What do you want, George?  I have conceded Usenet AAPC to you.
Unlike you, I have never wanted to run aapc. I have two blogs, and one
active wiki, where I can do what I want (despite your Team's best
efforts to close them down). I used to see value to aapc, but your Team
and PJR's Team have hollowed it out, so it's no more than Will, Jordy,
and (occasionally) Rachel. Since I like all three, I'm still here; but
it's in no way, shape, or form my group.

I only drop by to monitor your posts, because I am well aware of your
attempts to rewrite Usenet AAPC's history to your liking.
I am the self-appinted group historian, you know; that's one role I
don't mind assuming.

BTW: Hello Jordy!
>
2) I believe that I have always been on good terms with Rachel.
>
It may be true that you believe that, MMP; but it is not true that you
were. The archives have plenty of gossip you, Jim and NG have
written about her, and flame wars that you've tried to start with her.
>
I have praised Rachel's poetry when I felt it was good; and I have
negatively commented on her poetry when it degenerated into a long,
nonsensical rant on, and to, Bob.
>
Nevertheless I have remained on good terms with her, and still
occasionally exchange personal emails with her.
Rachel has probably not seen, or forgotten, your threads about her
claiming that Bob Dylan raped her, and about Bob Dylan suing her for
those claims; but, as the self-appointed group historian, I am not going
to let posterity forget them.

3) By definition, an enemy is one who poses at least a potential threat
to one in some manner.  A mentally deficient hillbilly, a drunken
pissbum, and middle aged man with the mind of a child are hardly to be
perceived of as threats.
>
MMP, as previously noted, you reject reality and live in a delusional
world of your own. It's central to your delusion that you're a genius
with encyclopedic knowledge of poetry. Anyone who doesn't buy into
that is attacking your delusion, so of course you'd see them as a
threat.
That's how you came up with your "Team Donkey" bullshit in the first
place.
>
Uh... PJR introduced the idea of "Teams," George.
True; but at least he had the decency to label his enemies "Team Dunce."
You, OTOH, thought that if you simply started attacking me off aapc, I'd
simply slink off (like what happened to Vinyl Cat after you went after
her business). You miscalculated.
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23 Dec 24 * The Return of Michael Monkey145George J. Dance
23 Dec 24 +- Re: The Return of Swamp Ass Georgie Dance1Ted
24 Dec 24 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Dec 24 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
2 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
3 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey98W.Dockery
10 Jan 25 i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
11 Jan 25 ii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
13 Jan 25 i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey95George J. Dance
13 Jan 25 i +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey61HarryLime
14 Jan 25 i i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey30George J. Dance
14 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
14 Jan 25 i iii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1Rudy Canoza
15 Jan 25 i ii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey27HarryLime
16 Jan 25 i ii +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i ii +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i ii i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
17 Jan 25 i ii `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey23George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i ii  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey22HarryLime
21 Jan 25 i ii   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey21George J. Dance
21 Jan 25 i ii    +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4HarryLime
23 Jan 25 i ii    i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i ii    i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i ii    i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
26 Jan 25 i ii    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey16W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey15George J. Dance
26 Jan 25 i ii      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
26 Jan 25 i ii      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i ii       i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey9HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       i +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i ii       i i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       i i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i ii       i i    `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii       i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i ii       i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i ii       `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
23 Jan 25 i i+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey29George J. Dance
23 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5George J. Dance
23 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
24 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
24 Jan 25 i iii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
24 Jan 25 i ii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey22HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
25 Jan 25 i iiii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i iiii `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii+* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2George J. Dance
25 Jan 25 i iiii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
25 Jan 25 i iii`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i iii `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey11W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i iii   +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii   i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey7HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6George J. Dance
28 Jan 25 i iii     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i iii      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 i iii       `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i iii        `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i iii         `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
28 Jan 25 i ii`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i i`- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
14 Jan 25 i +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
16 Jan 25 i +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
16 Jan 25 i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey31W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey30George J. Dance
17 Jan 25 i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey29W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 i    +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
17 Jan 25 i    i+- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2HarryLime
27 Jan 25 i    i  `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 i    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey23George J. Dance
27 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey15W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i`* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey14HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey13W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i  `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey12HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i   `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey11W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i    `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey10HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i     `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey9W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i      +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i      `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey7HarryLime
29 Jan 25 i     i       `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey6W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 i     i        `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5HarryLime
30 Jan 25 i     i         `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey4W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 i     i          `* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3HarryLime
30 Jan 25 i     i           +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1Rudy Canoza
30 Jan 25 i     i           `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 i     +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
31 Jan 25 i     +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
1 Feb 25 i     `- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
4 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
11 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
17 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
22 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
27 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey16W.Dockery
28 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey3W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey2W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
29 Jan 25 +* Re: The Return of Michael Monkey5W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
30 Jan 25 +- Re: The Return of Michael Monkey1W.Dockery
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