Re: The Return of Michael Monkey

On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 0:18:15 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 13:36:21 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 20:48:44 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:32:52 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 2:27:28 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:54:22 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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George J. Dance wrote:
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 7:40:51 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:00:16 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

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https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=253903&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#253903
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:22:04 +0000, Michael Monkey aka "HarryLime"
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MMP: My literary journal was created to highlight the best examples of
poetry from AAPC's various members.  The best poetry by Member G does
not necessarily measure up to the best poetry of Member J.
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As Mr. Dance has so ably demonstrated above, his own poem left no traces
on my memory.

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MMP's memory lapses are something I'm sure we're all familiar with by
now. But let us remember what else I just ably demonstrated: that back
in 2021 (when he was still hoping to recruit me as an ally) he
considered Possibilities one of "the best examples of poetry" on AAPC.

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This deserves an underscore as an example of Michael Pendragon's biased
behavior.

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Indeed. I'm not sure if you remeber that statement of his that I called
a statement of his editorial philosophy:
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<quote>
"You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential
adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack
those of your potential adversaries."
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"When [someone] Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry.
When he
is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he
can't write." </q>
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source text:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/hDYKsC5l5Ew/m/IR5NzWPJBQAJ?hl=en
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That also fully describes his critical philosophy. No more need be said,
but it can't be said often enough.
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In other words, Michael Pendragon is basically a two faced liar.

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Well, not exactly, It means he comes across as no different from a
two-faced liar, but I think his mental state is more complex than that I
should open a new threat where we can talk about that.

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Sounds good, and to avoid confusion with new readers, from now on I'll
just refer to Pendragon by his new chosen alias Harry Lime.

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That's a good point. Personally I do not like calling socks by their
aliases puppets by their sock names; that also can be confusing, as it's
meant to be. So I've started calling the person behind all those socks
MMP for Michael Monkey Peabrain (or just Peabrain if he says something
really stupid, or Lying Michael whenever I catch him in a lie). But that
could also be confusing for new readers and casual readers, so I think
I'll have to refer to him, when talking to third parties, as something
else; something that will identify whom I mean to any new or casual
readers.
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After some thought, I've settled on "the Lime sock" - what do you think?
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And so it goes.
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🙂

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George, Mummy Chunk asked where the "monkey" and "donkey" named came
from.
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Don't they stretch back to the old Gary Gamble and PJR days in some
ways?
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I honestly don't even remember at this point.
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I know the never ending flame war began in 2017 when Jim Senetto and
Michael Pendragon decided they would drive Stephan Pickering from the
poetry newsgroup, before Nancy Gene had ever arrived here, but I'm not
sure when the childish name calling began.
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Isn't there a timeline somewhere in the archives?

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Since you've brought me back for one more day, Donkey, I'll answer your
question here (and in the pointless duplicate thread you've created to
ask it again it), as well.
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The origin of "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with Gary Gamble.
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Gary Gamble had left the group long before my arrival here.  And as far
as I know, I have never interacted with him.
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In fact, "Will Donkey" had nothing to do with anything said at AAPC.
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I live in a very small house that was built in the 1920s.  I like to
think of it as a rustic cottage or a cozy bungalow.  In order to expand
the living space, one of the previous owners finished the basement, and
turned it into a combination kitchen, dining room and bar.  I keep my
computer down there, so when I'm online, I'm technically in the
basement.
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About seven years ago (give or take), my wife sent our youngest child
downstairs to see what I was doing.  He looked over my shoulder while I
was posting something to Usenet AAPC, and shouted up to her "He's
talking to Will Donkey the computer."
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Since the idea of someone conversing with a donkey on computer is funny,
it immediately became a running joke in our house.  "Daddy's talking to
Will Donkey again," etc).
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Since stubbornness is one of your strongest characteristics, I
immediately began addressing you as "Will Donkey" in AAPC as well.
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"Monkey," otoh, came about when Karen Tellefsen wrote a satirical poem
about our endless flame war here, set to the tune of "Pop Goes the
Weasel." "Pop Goes the Weasel," in case you're unfamiliar with it, is a
nursery rhyme about a monkey chasing a weasel around a cobbler's bench.
In her poem, she replaced "Weasel" with "Donkey" (signifying you, as I
had already started calling you "Will Donkey" at that time). She
retained "Monkey" from the original because I often posted under my
backup account here as "Coco DeSockmonkey."
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You and George immediately started calling me "Michael Monkey" as a
result.

Actually, that's not true.
I almost always call you Michael Pendragon

There ypu have it: "Will Donkey" came from my son's misreading of your
name on my monitor, and "Michael Monkey" came from Karen's satirical
poem.
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