Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery

On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 18:23:17 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 16:59:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 16:36:18 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:43:26 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:03:34 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

General-Zod wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Faraway Star wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

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I Met A Girl
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I met a girl
she came from California.
It was in a dream
we knew each other instantly.
She was a little freckled girl
from out of
my high school past.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I've forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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We talked
a really detached situation.
She said years ago
I was so shy
she thought I was gay.
At this point I kissed her
and put my finger to her hole.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I have forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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I don't know why it was
that I would think of her.
I made a couple of puns
about her name that made me blush.
But her softness in tone
made me feel all right.
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All I want to do
is get in contact.
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-Will Dockery / May 8 1982

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The official version of this poem.

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Yes, that matters.

On y second read of this today, it captures that touch of Bukowski but

is fully a Doc story... superb...
Welcome back, Zod.

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I thank... good to be back...!

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Great new art, by the way:

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https://imgur.com/gallery/hth2PQb
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https://imgur.com/gallery/BJgjm9m
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As I've pointed out earlier, the poem is in the

Erotic poetry genre, and the characters are influenced by Beatnik and
1980s new wave and punk rock zeitgeist of those e

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See below:
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https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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The poetry is a snapshot from 1982, very different times which you
apparently missed, Pendragon.

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Again ^^^
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Admittedly

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objectifying, insensitive

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It was a poem based on a dream in 1982.
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Those were different times.

If you're saying that the 1980s were before the "Me Too" movement, and
that sexually assaulting women was both commonplace and accepted among
certain (male) crowds -- that is not an excuse.

Not at all, it's a very accurate depiction of a rock and roll romance
circa early 1980s

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See below:
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https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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I know because I was there, I lived it.

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So you

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(False accusations snipped)
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No, it was all consensual, read the poem.

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Again ^^^
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You do not say that it is consensual in the poem

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It's a poem, not every detail is included in a poem.

That's a very important "detail" to leave unclear.

It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.

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Again ^^^
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For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.

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That's another classic quote

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Just saying she was enjoying my company, obviously.
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If  she wasn't enjoying my company she could have easily walked away.

Or, as you had previously stated, she would have slapped you or yelled
at you.
Did women frequently slap and/or yell at you for coming on to them a bit
too aggressively in those days, Donkey?

Of course she didn't slap you, yell, or otherwise resist --

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Because we were just talking and having a nice time, if she didn't want
to be with me she could just leave.
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stoned out of her freakin' mind.

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Again, it was a poem about a dream and in both she was very lucid

No... in the poem she "talked real spacey" and your attempts at
conversation came across as a "really detached situation."
Those descriptions are hardly synonymous with "lucid."

Just because you weren't the one who slipped a roofie in her drink,

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That's definitely just another figment of your delusional imagination,
Pendragon.
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doesn't mean that you had any right to take advantage of her when in
that state.

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For starters, it's a poem about a dream.
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I didn't see any drugs in the dream.

But you did see their effects: she "talked real spacey"/your talk
created a "really detached situation."

And don't try playing innocent about it.

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Play innocent?
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I was absolutely innocent of any of these accusations you've making.
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You mention, *twice* in your

poem that she looked up at you and "talked real spacey."

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She came from California, talking real spacey like one of those Valley
Girls:

If you meant that she talked like a Valley Girl, you should have made
that clear.  That is not the message that comes across in your poem.

https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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I have to go make coffee now, I'll return soon to complete my response
to your critique.
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Thanks again for reading and commenting.
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😏

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