Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery

Will Dockery wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:43:26 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

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On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:03:34 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

General-Zod wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Faraway Star wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

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I Met A Girl
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I met a girl
she came from California.
It was in a dream
we knew each other instantly.
She was a little freckled girl
from out of
my high school past.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I've forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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We talked
a really detached situation.
She said years ago
I was so shy
she thought I was gay.
At this point I kissed her
and put my finger to her hole.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I have forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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I don't know why it was
that I would think of her.
I made a couple of puns
about her name that made me blush.
But her softness in tone
made me feel all right.
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All I want to do
is get in contact.
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-Will Dockery / May 8 1982

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The official version of this poem.

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Yes, that matters.

On y second read of this today, it captures that touch of Bukowski but

is fully a Doc story... superb...
Welcome back, Zod.

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I thank... good to be back...!

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Great new art, by the way:

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https://imgur.com/gallery/hth2PQb
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https://imgur.com/gallery/BJgjm9m
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As I've pointed out earlier, the poem is in the

Erotic poetry genre, and the characters are influenced by Beatnik and
1980s new wave and punk rock zeitgeist of those e

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See below:
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https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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The poetry is a snapshot from 1982, very different times which you
apparently missed, Pendragon.

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Again ^^^
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Admittedly

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objectifying, insensitive

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It was a poem based on a dream in 1982.
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Those were different times.

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If you're saying that the 1980s were before the "Me Too" movement, and
that sexually assaulting women was both commonplace and accepted among
certain (male) crowds -- that is not an excuse.
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Not at all, it's a very accurate depiction of a rock and roll romance
circa early 1980s

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See below:
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https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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I know because I was there, I lived it.

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So you

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(False accusations snipped)
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No, it was all consensual, read the poem.

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Again ^^^
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You do not say that it is consensual in the poem

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It's a poem, not every detail is included in a poem.

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That's a very important "detail" to leave unclear.
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It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.

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Again ^^^
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For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.

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That's another classic quote

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Just saying she was enjoying my company, obviously.
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If  she wasn't enjoying my company she could have easily walked away.

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Or, as you had previously stated, she would have slapped you or yelled
at you.
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Did women frequently slap and/or yell at you for coming on to them a bit
too aggressively in those days, Donkey?
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Of course she didn't slap you, yell, or otherwise resist --

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Because we were just talking and having a nice time, if she didn't want
to be with me she could just leave.
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stoned out of her freakin' mind.

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Again, it was a poem about a dream and in both she was very lucid

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No... in the poem she "talked real spacey" and your attempts at
conversation came across as a "really detached situation."
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Those descriptions are hardly synonymous with "lucid."
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Just because you weren't the one who slipped a roofie in her drink,

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That's definitely just another figment of your delusional imagination,
Pendragon.
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doesn't mean that you had any right to take advantage of her when in
that state.

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For starters, it's a poem about a dream.
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I didn't see any drugs in the dream.

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But you did see their effects: she "talked real spacey"/your talk
created a "really detached situation."
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And don't try playing innocent about it.

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Play innocent?
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I was absolutely innocent of any of these accusations you've making.
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You mention, *twice* in your

poem that she looked up at you and "talked real spacey."

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She came from California, talking real spacey like one of those Valley
Girls:

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If you meant that she talked like a Valley Girl

https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM?si=Ire6VgsyvuzQui5j
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I have to go make coffee now, I'll return soon to complete my response
to your critique.
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Thanks again for reading and commenting.
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😏

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