Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery

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Sujet : Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery
De : mpsilvertone (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (HarryLime)
Groupes : alt.arts.poetry.comments rec.arts.poems
Date : 19. Feb 2025, 14:26:49
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 21:35:34 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:14:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
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On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:42:12 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
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HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
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George J. Dance wrote:
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Will Dockery wrote:
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:14:42 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:12:37 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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Here's the original unedited version so the readers can decide for
themselves:
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I Met A Girl
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I met a girl
she came from California.
It was in a dream
we knew each other instantly.
She was a little freckled girl
from out of
my high school past.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I've forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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We talked
a really detached situation.
She said years ago
I was so shy
she thought I was gay.
At this point I kissed her
and put my finger to her hole.
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And she looked up at me
and talked real spacey.
I have forgotten her name
though she told it to me twice.
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I don't know why it was
that I would think of her.
I made a couple of puns
about her name that made me blush.
But her softness in tone
made me feel all right.
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All I want to do
is get in contact.
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-Will Dockery / May 8 1982
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That's a very strange dream sequence, Will.
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***
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This poem was written in 1982, during my time in the Atlanta Georgia New
Wave punk rock scene, while also influenced by the earlier Beatnik poets
I was reading at the time, such as Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and
Charles Bukowski among others.
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It does sound a bit like Bukowski. It actually reminded me most of a
Bukowski wannabe who used to post here, who shall go nameless.
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Both styles employed a sort of crude swagger in the tone and content
which I also used in many of my poems.
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All apologies to those offended.
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HTH and HAND.
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I can't see why anyone in their right mind would be offended by a dream
you had more than 40 years ago; but given some of the people nn the
group these days, it's probably best to cover oneself.
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Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon is apparently in a tizzy over it
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Yes. I noticed him writing about it another thread, writing about this
poem, which is what brought me here to check it out in the first place.
He was of course misrepresenting it as a real incident, rather than a
dream you'd written a poem about, hoping no one would come here to check
it.
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Thanks again, George, and bumped, since Michael Pendragon is in a tizzy
trying to bury the post.
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Did you share a real life "romantic interlude" with the little freckled
girl or not?
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No, like the poem states, it was in a dream.
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It doesn't matter if it was a dream
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If course it matters.
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Dreams are different from reality, don't you agree?
Your poem presents a scenario wherein it is considered not only
acceptable, but a "romantic interlude," for one to aggressively grope
(and finger) the vagina of a "girl" you had just met at a bar.
Whether this scenario took place in real life or in a dream doesn't
alter the fact that it is presented in a positive light within the
narrative of the poem.
-- Michael Pendragon
“It was very clear it was consensual in the poem.
For example, the girl didn't slap me or yell at me or anything.” – Will
Donkey
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