Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:06:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 3:37:09 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
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I am publishing an AAPC poetry journal featuring award-winning poets.

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Can you say vanity press?

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A vanity press charges a "reading" or "submission" fee.

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Do you pay in contributors copies?

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Almost.  I don't receive any money for them.  They're sold at cost.

So, like I said, your publication is basically vanity press, poets
published in your book have to pay to see a copy of the book their
poetry is published in.
Good luck with your vanity press venture.

So... no.
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After Jim and Stephan became engaged in a prolonged flamewar

Eventually dragging everyone in.

off the Sampler, the second thing you did was start flooding the group
with
a nasty, libellous document that NG had written.

Lest we forget ^^^

Oh yes, the last resort, flood the newsgroup with your lies and
misrepresentations.

Exactly, nailed it.

There was no such "libellous[sic]" document

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George Dance saw it differently.

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He certainly spelled it differently.

George Dance got his point across, spelling lames notwithstanding.

Grim times for the poetry newsgroup indeed.

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There's no guidelines on who we "allow" to be here on a Usenet
newsgroup.
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Stephan Pickering knew poetry and made many good poetry posts.

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Pretty good poetry, as I recall.
Stephan Pickering has written some interesting poems over the years.

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The third thing you did, a month or so of that, when Jim and Stephan
were thoroughly
engaged with each other, you went deep diving outside the group for
information on NAMBLA, and found a quotation from Allan Ginsberg
("I have never had sex with anyone under 15"

Under 18-19, we now know.

The youngest sex partner Allen Ginsberg is known to have was the 18-19
year old man

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And later it turns out the youngest sex partner Allen Ginsberg is known
to have was an 18-19 year old man.

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He was 18 and then turned 19.
Unless something new has surfaced, there's zero evidence.

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IIRC, Ginsberg tacitly admitted it in one or more interviews.
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There's an interview with the fellow, I don't remember his name right
now.

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posting here, falsely calling Ginsberg a "pedophile" (or predator);

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Which, from the evidence, wasn't true, as shown above.

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Again, more on this later.

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 and then

when others objected to that (like Stephan, Will, or myself), you began
calling those people "pedophiles" as well.

Harry/Pendragon has apparently forgotten that he began this line of name
calling.

That's when the bullshit from Pendragon began to get heavy.

And hot progressively worse.

Most likely Jim had falsely condemned Ginsberg as
a child molester

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Which wasn't actually true, by all evidence.

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Not statements but actual evidence.
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I looked twenty years ago and found no actual evidence, more on this
later.

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I'll have to research this again, since I haven't read the details in
over twenty years.

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and Pickering (who worshipped Ginsberg) spazzed.

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That is a fair summary of what I just said, though you left out that you
(and Jim)
were calling Stephan a child molester as well. No one appreciates being
called names like that by cowardly trolls on the internet.

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Which led to Tit for Tat behavior over time.
Again, I remember that.

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At that point Pendragon and Senetto were trying any dirty trick to drive
Stephan Pickering away from this newsgroup.
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And so it goes.

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I doubt you'll argue this, Pendragon, since you once bragged about doing
this in the 1950s music group.

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I never made any such boast

I don't remember the details but Bruce and Diane still go ballistic if
your name comes up, due to your years of malicious personal attacks and
trolling on the 1950s music Usenet newsgroup.

I bragged about torturing the living bejeezus out of PhillyGuy for fun
and amusement.  I never made up anything to win an argument there.

You made things up about Philly Guy though, correct?

I researched, and posted, historical sources for every argument I made.
In fact, I got so good at researching 50s music, that I eventually wrote
a 2 volume book on the topic:
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https://www.amazon.com/MUSIC-Definitive-History-American-Popular/dp/B08D4VRR83/ref
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https://www.amazon.com/Music-Two-Definitive-American-1964-1964/dp/B08F6CGF5S?ref

That looks really interesting, actually

1) Orthodox Jews who
arrange marriages for their children usually go to a matchmaker; 2) they
would also ensure that their daughter had a chaperone whenever she and
Pickles were together; 3) they would not have had any reason for wanting
to bring a penniless  boy whose violent, alcoholic father had been shot
by his mother-in-law into their family; 4) they most certainly would
*NOT* under any circumstances, have fixed her up with a non-Jew. (This
was long before Pick's alleged self-conversion.)  Pick's father *may*
have been Jewish (Pick never said), but Jewish identity is determined
along matriarchal lines (that is, through the mother).
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Orthodox Jews cannot marry non-Jews.  If an Orthodox Jew's daughter
marries a "goy" (a non-Jew) her parents must sit Shiva for her (hold the
equivalent of a wake), cut off all ties with her, and consider her as
being dead to them.
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The second statutory rape supposedly occurred in Israel -- a year or two
after Pickles graduated high school.  He claims that he impregnated, and
then married, this woman.  However, Pickle's correspondence to Forrest
Ackerman firmly establishes that he was in Los Angeles at the time.
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