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Date : 12. Oct 2024, 08:52:18
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:48:07 -0000 (UTC), Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I don't think "human-level machine intelligence" is meaningful, because
computation to carry out tasks and cognition to further the existence
of a living organism aren't commensurable.
 
I'm not convinced of that.  Nobody has come up with a task that a person
could do but that no computer could ever do.  There are tasks that it's
been proven computers can't do, but no person has proven able to do them
either.
 
So I think it's not at all unlikely that computers, some of them in
humanoid robot bodies, will someday be able to do every task that a
person can do, better and less expensively.  At that point the
unemployment rate will increase to 100%.  Those who don't own stock in
the AI companies will have financial problems.
 
Or, of course, the intelligent machines may decide we're a nuisance, and
wipe us out.
 
A third category is uploaded people, i.e. human consciousnesses copied
into a computer.  Simply completely map a human brain and then emulate
it in software.  It would of course have the same memories and
personality as the original person.  By cranking up the clock frequency,
it could work must faster than us flesh people, get a full night's sleep
in a few seconds, or a lengthy vacation in a few minutes.  And it could
work for much less income, since it could enjoy realistic virtual
entertainments.  It would be potentially immortal.  Or at least last as
long as our civilization.
 
But present-day computers and programs are nowhere close to human-level
intelligence yet.
 
I understand there is a complete brain map of a fruit fly.  I haven't
heard whether they've emulated it in software and gotten fly-like
behavior out of it.

They have. One of the series of papers published in Nature says that
they presented the model with simulated sugar and got the fly to stick out
its simulated tongue.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Oct 24 * Things I never thought would appear28Joy Beeson
11 Oct 24 +- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Dorothy J Heydt
11 Oct 24 +* Re: Things I never thought would appear25Keith F. Lynch
11 Oct 24 i+* Re: Things I never thought would appear23Jay E. Morris
11 Oct 24 ii`* Re: Things I never thought would appear22Keith F. Lynch
11 Oct 24 ii +* Re: Things I never thought would appear18Gary McGath
11 Oct 24 ii i`* Re: Things I never thought would appear17Keith F. Lynch
11 Oct 24 ii i +* Re: Things I never thought would appear7Evelyn C. Leeper
12 Oct 24 ii i i+* Re: Things I never thought would appear3Keith F. Lynch
13 Oct 24 ii i ii+- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Evelyn C. Leeper
15 Oct 24 ii i ii`- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Tim Merrigan
15 Oct 24 ii i i`* Re: Things I never thought would appear3Tim Merrigan
15 Oct 24 ii i i `* Re: Things I never thought would appear2Tim Merrigan
16 Oct 24 ii i i  `- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Scott Dorsey
12 Oct 24 ii i +* Re: Things I never thought would appear7Gary McGath
12 Oct 24 ii i i`* Re: Things I never thought would appear6Keith F. Lynch
14 Oct 24 ii i i `* Re: Things I never thought would appear5Gary McGath
15 Oct 24 ii i i  `* Re: Things I never thought would appear4Keith F. Lynch
16 Oct 24 ii i i   +* Re: Things I never thought would appear2Scott Dorsey
16 Oct 24 ii i i   i`- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Keith F. Lynch
16 Oct 24 ii i i   `- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Mike Van Pelt
12 Oct 24 ii i `* Re: Things I never thought would appear2Charles Packer
12 Oct 24 ii i  `- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Keith F. Lynch
14 Oct 24 ii +* AI isn't2Mike Van Pelt
14 Oct 24 ii i`- Re: AI isn't1Dorothy J Heydt
9 Nov 24 ii `- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Jeff Jonas
15 Oct 24 i`- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Tim Merrigan
11 Oct 24 `- Re: Things I never thought would appear1Scott Dorsey

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