Re: Independence Day

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Sujet : Re: Independence Day
De : kfl (at) *nospam* KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch)
Groupes : rec.arts.sf.fandom
Date : 05. Jul 2024, 03:49:16
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Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
There were a few references to "the nation's birthday" even though
the actual start of the nation was on March 4, 1789.  Up until then,
we had been free and independent states.

It was called the United States from 1776.

ObSF:  L. Neil Smith's novels set in an alternate United States in
which the current constitution was never adopted and its authors
had been hanged as traitors.  Their charter had been to update the
Articles of Confederation, not to overthrow them.

Guy Fawkes Day is a similar bonfires-and-fireworks holiday, and
I wondered whether it had undergone a similar shift -- until I
realized that even a yank can recite "I see no reason/why gunpowder
treason/should ever be forgot".

An attempted assassination of a king seems an odd thing to celebrate.

I'll be in Buffalo for the NASFiC.  I wonder if there's any memorial
or museum to the presidential assassination that happened there.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Jul 24 * Independence Day69Joy Beeson
5 Jul 24 +* Re: Independence Day66Keith F. Lynch
5 Jul 24 i+* Re: Independence Day2Paul Dormer
5 Jul 24 ii`- Re: Independence Day1Scott Dorsey
6 Jul 24 i`* Re: Independence Day63Gary McGath
17 Jul 24 i `* Re: Independence Day62Keith F. Lynch
18 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Independence Day61Scott Dorsey
19 Jul 24 i   +- Re: Independence Day1Keith F. Lynch
19 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Independence Day59D
19 Jul 24 i    +* Re: Independence Day5Keith F. Lynch
19 Jul 24 i    i+- Re: Independence Day1D
20 Jul 24 i    i`* Re: Independence Day3Keith F. Lynch
20 Jul 24 i    i +- Re: Independence Day1Gary R. Schmidt
20 Jul 24 i    i `- Re: Independence Day1D
19 Jul 24 i    +* Re: Independence Day47Scott Dorsey
19 Jul 24 i    i+* Re: Independence Day45D
21 Jul 24 i    ii`* Re: Independence Day44Scott Dorsey
21 Jul 24 i    ii +* Re: Independence Day18Keith F. Lynch
21 Jul 24 i    ii i+* Re: Independence Day8Scott Dorsey
21 Jul 24 i    ii ii+- Re: Independence Day1D
23 Jul 24 i    ii ii`* Re: Independence Day6Gary McGath
23 Jul 24 i    ii ii +- Re: Independence Day1Paul Dormer
26 Jul 24 i    ii ii `* Re: Independence Day4Keith F. Lynch
28 Jul 24 i    ii ii  `* Re: Independence Day3Scott Dorsey
29 Jul 24 i    ii ii   `* Re: Independence Day2Gary McGath
29 Jul 24 i    ii ii    `- Re: Independence Day1Scott Dorsey
22 Jul 24 i    ii i+- Re: Independence Day1Paul Dormer
24 Jul 24 i    ii i`* Re: Independence Day8Keith F. Lynch
24 Jul 24 i    ii i +* Re: Independence Day4D
26 Jul 24 i    ii i i`* Re: Independence Day3Keith F. Lynch
26 Jul 24 i    ii i i `* Re: Independence Day2D
26 Jul 24 i    ii i i  `- Re: Independence Day1Keith F. Lynch
25 Jul 24 i    ii i `* Re: Independence Day3Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 i    ii i  +- Re: Independence Day1Dorothy J Heydt
25 Jul 24 i    ii i  `- Re: Independence Day1Paul Dormer
21 Jul 24 i    ii `* Re: Independence Day25D
22 Jul 24 i    ii  +* Re: Independence Day14Paul Dormer
22 Jul 24 i    ii  i`* Re: Independence Day13D
23 Jul 24 i    ii  i `* Re: Independence Day12Paul Dormer
23 Jul 24 i    ii  i  `* Re: Independence Day11Gary McGath
23 Jul 24 i    ii  i   +- Re: Independence Day1D
23 Jul 24 i    ii  i   +- Re: Independence Day1Paul Dormer
25 Jul 24 i    ii  i   +- Re: Independence Day1Cryptoengineer
25 Jul 24 i    ii  i   `* Re: Independence Day7Tim Merrigan
26 Jul 24 i    ii  i    +* Re: Independence Day4Gary McGath
26 Jul 24 i    ii  i    i+* Re: Independence Day2Paul Dormer
26 Jul 24 i    ii  i    ii`- Re: Independence Day1Keith F. Lynch
26 Jul 24 i    ii  i    i`- Re: Independence Day1Scott Dorsey
26 Jul 24 i    ii  i    +- Re: Independence Day1Torbjorn Lindgren
4 Aug 24 i    ii  i    `- Re: Independence Day1Cryptoengineer
22 Jul 24 i    ii  `* Re: Independence Day10Scott Dorsey
22 Jul 24 i    ii   `* Re: Independence Day9D
23 Jul 24 i    ii    +* Re: Independence Day7Paul Dormer
23 Jul 24 i    ii    i`* Re: Independence Day6D
23 Jul 24 i    ii    i `* Re: Independence Day5Paul Dormer
23 Jul 24 i    ii    i  +* Re: Independence Day3D
24 Jul 24 i    ii    i  i`* Re: Independence Day2Paul Dormer
24 Jul 24 i    ii    i  i `- Re: Independence Day1D
25 Jul 24 i    ii    i  `- Re: Independence Day1Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 i    ii    `- Re: Independence Day1Torbjorn Lindgren
19 Jul 24 i    i`- Re: Independence Day1D
19 Jul 24 i    +- Re: Independence Day1Paul Dormer
19 Jul 24 i    +* Trains [was Re: Independence Day]4Evelyn C. Leeper
19 Jul 24 i    i+* Re: Trains [was Re: Independence Day]2Scott Dorsey
20 Jul 24 i    ii`- Re: Trains [was Re: Independence Day]1Evelyn C. Leeper
19 Jul 24 i    i`- Re: Trains [was Re: Independence Day]1D
19 Jul 24 i    `- Re: Independence Day1D
5 Jul 24 +- Re: Independence Day1Tim Merrigan
5 Jul 24 `- Re: Independence Day1Tim Merrigan

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