Re: Vancean logic

On 8/10/24 12:32 PM, Joel Polowin wrote:

"Let’s give votes to all children in this country, but let’s give control over those votes to the parents of those children.  When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power — you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic — than people who don’t have kids.  Let’s face the consequences and the reality: If you don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn’t get nearly the same voice. Of course, part and parcel with this is that convicted felons would have to lose their children." — Jack Daniels Vance

This is a stitching together of a real quote from Vance with a made-up one.
In a July 24, 2021 speech, he said, "Let's give votes to all children in this country but let's give control over those votes to the parents of those children. [possible ellipsis] When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power, you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don't have kids. Let's face the consequences and the reality: if you don't have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn't get nearly the same voice." However, I can't find any source for the last sentence, about convicted felons.
The speech is on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBrEng3xQYo
His obsession with childless people starts around 18:40. (Full disclosure: I have no children.) And obsession is the word; the speech shows this more than any short quote. He cites Viktor Orban as a model to follow. He looks forward to future wars with hopeful anticipation. The quote in question is at 25:30. (Yes, he's been going for seven minutes being hostile to the childless.) But the alleged quote about convicted felons didn't occur in that segment. I didn't listen to the very end, but at the least it's not part of the same quote.
Fake news. That's what happens when you paste an unsourced quotation.
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