Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet

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De : g (at) *nospam* crcomp.net (Don)
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Date : 02. Jun 2024, 04:18:55
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petertrei wrote:
Don wrote:
     We have set it down as a law to ourselves to examine
     things to the bottom, and not to receive upon credit,
     or reject upon probability, until these have passed a
     due examination. - Bacon's Natural History.
>
_The Tempest_ is popularly interpreted as an allegory for Freemason
initiation [1][2]. And some Shakespearean scholars simultaneously see
_Forbidden Planet_ as an adaptation of _The Tempest_ [3][4].
     Given all of the above, it's fun to forage for Freemason forms in
_Forbidden Planet_."
     The link below shows some symbols spotted in the movie along with
associated commentary. Views expressed are for informational purposes
only; they do not constitute an endorsement or an approval of
Freemasonry, Shakespeare, or Bacon.
>
     <https://crcomp.net/arts/forbidden/index.php>
>
     Do you see other, overlooked, occult Freemason symbols in
_Forbidden Planet_? Append any additional speculative symbology you spot
to this thread.
>
Whoo boy. You're playing in *my* house now.
>
I'm a Freemason, and have been one for over 35 years.
I know a thing or two.
>
I'm going to accept, as everyone does, that Forbidden Planet is
a homage to The Tempest.
>
The 'popular interpretation' is better characterized as 'a couple
of people wrote speculative essays'.
>
Freemasonry is remarkably free of canon, and there
is complete freedom for any Mason to write any speculation about it he
wants, without fear of sanction, unless he reveals a very small number
of passwords, etc - all the 'real secrets' would fit on the 3x5 filecard
with room to spare.
>
I have, for example, a book claiming that Stonehenge was constructed as
a Masonic temple. This is nonsense, but the author didn't get in
trouble.
>
There's a very long cottage industry of claiming that this or that
work of art contains Masonic dogwhistles. Usually they're not supported.
>
In the case of Forbidden Planet, the things the linked essay claims
as 'Masonic forms' don't appear in the play - they were added for
the movie. Certainly, Shakespeare didn't put them there.
>
As to whether they were actually intended to invoke Freemasonry, I
can't rule it out. But its highly speculative, and I strongly
doubt it. Some are too strained (the Krell doorways), some have errors
(the staircase),  some have far more mundane explanations (Cookies
apron, the celestial globe), and some are just too common to require
a Masonic explanation (the star blowing up).
>
[Prediction, based on years of trying to debunk nonsense about
Freemasonry. Don will say some combination of:
>
* You're low level, and don't know the real secrets.
* You're high level, and are hiding the real secrets.
* My internet sources are better than your lived experience.

Please post greater detail about your "winding staircase" grievance.

On a happier note, it was fun to discover the Forty-seventh Problem of
Euclid staring at me right in the face from the chalkboard! It tickles
me to pull Euclid into my Masonic mosaic in the form of a new Figure.

Perhaps a wise guy can pull a pattern, a potential pièce de résistance,
out of this paper?

    <https://crcomp.net/arts/forbidden/paper.png>

Danke,

--
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telltale tall tail /,   _.. \   _\  (`._ ,.    Walk humbly with thy God.
tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'    Make 1984 fiction again.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jun 24 * Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet28Don
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2 Jun 24  +* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet12Don
3 Jun 24  i`* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet11Cryptoengineer
3 Jun 24  i `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet10Don
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12 Jun 24  i  i `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet4Robert Carnegie
12 Jun 24  i  i  `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet3Michael F. Stemper
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2 Jun 24  `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet11John Savard
3 Jun 24   `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet10David Duffy
3 Jun 24    `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet9Titus G
3 Jun 24     `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet8Cryptoengineer
3 Jun 24      +* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet2Cryptoengineer
4 Jun 24      i`- Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet1Paul S Person
4 Jun 24      `* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet5Titus G
5 Jun 24       +* Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet3David Duffy
5 Jun 24       i+- Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet1Don
5 Jun 24       i`- Re: Deep focus on Freemason forms found in Forbidden Planet1Titus G
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