Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA

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Sujet : Re: the future long term financial apocalypse of the USA
De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
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Date : 22. May 2024, 16:57:47
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On Tue, 21 May 2024 22:33:20 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

D <nospam@example.net> writes:
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Dr. Murphy addresses those topics as well.  You are clearly suffering
from wishful thinking.   Colonization of any planet is currently
way beyond our capabilities - it's not even clear that humans can survive
on any planet other than earth using only in-situ resources.  Even
Mars, which would be the most likely candidate, suffers from the lack
of a van allen belt and thus the radiation at the surface pretty much
precludes any substantial settlement by humans.
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There is no fundamental law that makes it impossible for human beings to
colonize other planets, and I did not state that this will take place
tomorrow.
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I never said that.   I did say that there is no known, or anticipated
technological advance that will make Mars habitable sufficent to support
more than a few people at any one time.   Perhaps you
have been reading too much Science Fiction?
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There are 140 million babies born each year.   What would it take to
transport that many people each year to another planet, and how long
would it take?  And how much would it cost?   And without the governments
that you lambast, who would pay for it?

If he had been reading enough SF, he would have learned long ago that
moving lots of people to anywhere else is impractical. Moving seed
populations which then grow naturally might be, but the Earth itself
will on a path which does not appear to have a turning.

<snippo good stuff, but the post is long>
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Basically, we could expand nuclear massively, absent politicians, and of
course complement that with solar/wind where possible and desirable.
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No, it is not physically possible given planetary resource limitations.

This sounds reasonable, given the stuff I snipped.

Completely leaving aside the considerations and costs of waste disposal.

Ah. You are ignoring his "absent politicians" and so lack of
regulations. No long lead times, no pesky building standards, waste
released into the environment so "someone else" can handle it.
Problems solved!

Add in a few meltdowns and the very /concept/ of nuclear power will be
discredited for a very long time. We might even see a few Angry Mobs
stringing up the Excutives in highest five levels of Management of the
companies involved (not just the power companies, their owners as
well).

After all, without a government, Angry Mobs are free to do whatever
they want. Whether it makes sense or not.

Decoding D-think isn't so hard after all.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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