Re: Books Banned in Utah.

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Sujet : Re: Books Banned in Utah.
De : alan (at) *nospam* sabir.com (Chris Buckley)
Groupes : rec.arts.sf.written
Date : 12. Aug 2024, 19:52:06
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On 2024-08-12, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> writes:
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Your arguments, with these additional fun facts, seem to imply that we
should be trying to emulate Utah.  They get a lot of bang for their
buck!  (I personally don't believe we should emulate Utah's rather
silly state ban law. Ability to ban books in grade school libraries is
necessary, but it should only be done at the local level, not any
higher level, IMO.)
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Chris
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That's what I wanted to know. It does seem like Utahs model should be
copied by other states, since they could perhaps achieve more with less,
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Actually, the primary reason that Utah spends less is that
the cost of living is half that of NY state.   If you just
look at Manhattan and Long Island, the cost of living in
Utah is about 25%.   Which, after adjusting for that, puts
NY and Utah almost at parity for per-student spending.

Once again, complete nonsense. See my other response for the citations.
New York State spends 355% of Utah's per student spending and the cost of
living is ~130% of Utah's.  Why do you consider that "almost at parity"?

and put that money to better use or return it to the tax payers.
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Another factor to consider is the results of that spending;
college entrance exam scores, et alia.  There are no doubt
several other factors that should be taken into account.

Once again you deleted my argument! Please explain why you feel
Utah being the top state in the country in 8th grade math and the
3rd state in the country in 8th grade reading according to the NAEP
is not good and sufficient evidence that Utah does very well in
public school education.

Chris

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