Re: Politics OT-Re: Books Banned in Utah.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 16:57:51 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:32:41 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
 
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Back in the 80's, my mother (a knee-jerk Republican: mention "Kennedy"
and her right knee would jerk and she'd say "Chappaquiddick") confided
in me that the only reason FDR served four terms was because the Dems
had /suspended the two term limit/ so he could do so. The reality, of
course, is that the two-term limit came later, mostly to prevent a
recurrence of a four-term Presidency.
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As I've said before about the Republican Party: the rot runs deep,
very deep indeed.

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I think I have covered that.
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But the Democratic Party was racist until Kennedy Time.
He was the only president I ever bothered to gaze upon in
San Diego not long before I got kicked out and he got murdered.
My friends in Sacramento were absolutely destroyed by the
assassination but I was too intent on surviving with a UD. And
so once more I was out of step with the mood of the time. I
am really good at that.

 
The Southern Democrats ("Dixiecrats") were. How badly that tinged the
rest of the party I have no idea.

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As Caro describes it in "Master of the Senate" the Southern Democratic
Caucus was segregationist, with (IIRC) twenty two votes, with at the
time two southern democratic senators being against segregation.
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That was not enough to avoid cloture of a filibuster.  But they cut a
deal with western (but not west coast) republicans.  In return for
southern support of federal funding for western infrastructure, the
western and midwest republican senators would not support a cloture
vote, thus giving the south the power to filibuster anything.
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It was this alliance that killed, e.g. the original 1957 civil rights
bill, though it was supported by east and west coast republicans,
northern democrats, by Eisenhower and Nixon.
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Humphrey, Jackson, and other liberal senators were glad to get something
called "civil rights" passed, and LBJ needed it for his presidential
ambitions, but in actual fact the act achieved nothing.

Actually, I read an article (how long ago and in what source I do not
know) that LBJ fought to get the provisions on voting tried in
/Federal/ courts rather than /State/ courts. The jury pools were
different, and the Federal juries were less likely to side with the
accused when African-American voters were being suppressed.

IOW, he (and others) ensured that the law had some /teeth/.
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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"