Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling

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Sujet : Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling
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Date : 17. Jun 2024, 17:49:59
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In article <v4o33o$ab71$1@dont-email.me>,
 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/16/2024 11:48 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <v4kj0l$3ifm5$1@dont-email.me>,
  Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
 
On 6/15/2024 10:03 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:
In article <ld5kflFu232U1@mid.individual.net>,
   ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
>
In article <v4k3d5$3fg9u$1@dont-email.me>,
Robert Carnegie  <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
So is this series basically Nazi fanfiction?
I can do without that.
>
>
No.  There is nobody (including the author) rooting for the Draka.
They are portrayed as awful and evil.  However, sometimes evil wins.
>
Except that the timeline in the appendix to the first novel, _Marching
Through Georgia_, contained many events that I consider to be
extraordinarily unlikely* (even assuming that the unlikely previous
events happened).
>
*For values of "extremely unlikely" equal to a successful Operation
Sealion (Nazi Germany invasion of Great Britain in 1940).
>
In partial mitigation extremely unlikely things have happened in
reality.  Also the point of the books was a dystopia as horrible as the
author could manage so....
 
There is a difference between "improbable" and "implausible". IMHO, many
events in the Draka timeline look implausible.
 
Depends on how you feel about the Drakas unifying the continent of
Africa under their iron hand in the middle 1800s.
 

Africa is a big place (it is bigger than North America). It was not
exactly lightly populated. There would had been about an order of
magnitude fewer Draka than Americans. The disease environment would work
in the Draka disfavor. In summary, no way, no how.

The single trigger event is when George Washington exiled the 120,000
Loyalists to South Africa instead of Canada after the USA Revolutionary
war.
 

I doubt that this could have occurred (who would pay for this? Not USA).

In our reality, the 120,000 Loyalists were exiled to Canada from the
USA.  I had no idea that this really happened in the late 1700s.

In our timeline, the Loyalists (number is a bit uncertain), went to
numerous places. Some went to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick; some went
to southern Ontario, some went back to the British Isles; some went to
the British possessions in the Caribbean. A significant fraction of the
above returned to the United States several years later (after passions
cooled, I suspect).

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
—-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jun 24 * "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling37Lynn McGuire
1 Jun 24 +* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling35ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
1 Jun 24 i+- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Lynn McGuire
2 Jun 24 i+* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling31WolfFan
2 Jun 24 ii+* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling2Dimensional Traveler
2 Jun 24 iii`- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1WolfFan
15 Jun 24 ii`* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling28Robert Carnegie
15 Jun 24 ii +* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling26ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
15 Jun 24 ii i`* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling25Robert Woodward
15 Jun 24 ii i `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling24Dimensional Traveler
16 Jun 24 ii i  `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling23Robert Woodward
17 Jun 24 ii i   `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling22Lynn McGuire
17 Jun 24 ii i    +* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling7Robert Woodward
17 Jun 24 ii i    i`* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling6Lynn McGuire
18 Jun 24 ii i    i `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling5Robert Woodward
18 Jun 24 ii i    i  +- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Lynn McGuire
19 Jun 24 ii i    i  `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling3Chris Buckley
21 Jun 24 ii i    i   `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling2Robert Woodward
21 Jun 24 ii i    i    `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Lynn McGuire
18 Jun 24 ii i    `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling14William Hyde
18 Jun 24 ii i     `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling13Lynn McGuire
18 Jun 24 ii i      `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling12William Hyde
18 Jun 24 ii i       `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling11Robert Woodward
18 Jun 24 ii i        +- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1James Nicoll
18 Jun 24 ii i        `* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling9William Hyde
19 Jun 24 ii i         +* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling7James Nicoll
19 Jun 24 ii i         i`* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling6James Nicoll
19 Jun 24 ii i         i +* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling4Dimensional Traveler
20 Jun 24 ii i         i i+* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling2Gary R. Schmidt
21 Jun 24 ii i         i ii`- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Paul S Person
21 Jun 24 ii i         i i`- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1James Nicoll
19 Jun 24 ii i         i `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1William Hyde
19 Jun 24 ii i         `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1William Hyde
17 Jun 24 ii `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Lynn McGuire
2 Jun 24 i`* Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling2Robert Woodward
3 Jun 24 i `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Jon Leech
2 Jun 24 `- Re: "Drakon" by S. M. Stirling1Christian Weisgerber

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