Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite

On 15 Aug 2024 00:21:40 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

He is explicitly including milk and juice, suggesting we go back to
glass.
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Which is fine, so long as, when I drop one on the floor and it breaks,
he comes over, cleans up the mess, and gives me my money back.

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Why should I pay for your clumsiness?

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Returnable glass bottles with a deposit on them don't turn into litter.
And if they should turn into litter, kids will collect them to reclaim them.
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And, in the modern age where gorilla glass is not expensive to make any
longer, the issue of breakage should be a non-issue.  (In the past, of
course, reusable bottles were made thick enough to be very hard to break,
witness returnable coca-cola bottles as an example.  But gorilla glass
can make them thinner and cheaper to transport.)

Try it and see if the market will buy it. Or if plastic is so strongly
preferred that glass is purchased only if no alternative exists.

The Trader Joes produce bags are biodegradable.

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The biodegradable plastic bags usually are starch and an unstable
vinyl polymer.  The idea is kind of cool, but don't expect to use them
for long term storage.  I have kept electronic parts in grocery bags
to discover the bags were disintegrating in my cabinets.

I was appalled to find that the biodegradable bags that I bought
(together with a small bin with lots of space in the sides to keep the
smell down) when the fad first started have long-since degraded in a
closed box sitting on a shelf which is mostly kept in the dark. When I
was told to bag my trash, I ended up buying plastic garbage bags
because I couldn't anything else locally and I don't want to buy 1000
biodegradable bags and find then unusable aftor only 20 or so have
been used. Once bitten, twice shy.
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