Sujet : Re: SF writers in the work force JD Vance.
De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Groupes : rec.arts.sf.writtenDate : 10. Nov 2024, 18:03:58
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:21:36 +1300, Titus G <
noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/11/24 15:06, Jay E. Morris wrote:
On 11/9/2024 3:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Dude, JD Vance was a Marine Corps officer, not Army. And his
grandfather just lived down the street during his childhood with
extensive contact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance
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I am not familiar with the different branches of your military. The
point was that he had a cushy desk job as a spin doctor, was never in
danger and never shook a stick at the enemy.
This may help explain things a bit:
[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-commissioned_officer] in general,
and
[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-commissioned_officer#United_States]
in particular.
If he was, in fact, a clerk and /claimed/ to be anything else, then
that is a problem. Clerks are important to the overall functioning of
a military unit. Just not as important as the sharp end which is,
after all, the reason the unit exists.
I'm not sure about the Marine Corps, but a 1980s Army Division was at
least 60% /not/ combat troops, perhaps more (details fade). This is
called "tooth to tail": how much of the division is supporting the
combat units.
In addition to clerks, there are supply staff, vehicle mechs,
equipment techs, medical personnel, cooks and their assistants ... the
list goes on.
I think Wikipedia is brilliant but quick searches for "extensive",
"contact" and "grandfather" on that page were unsuccessful so in this
instance I shall rely on what Vance himself said in his book; that his
grandfather was a violent pig of an alcoholic and that his major
influence and saviour was his equally violent but sober grandmother.
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And Vance is the VP Elect. He will be sworn in on Jan 20, 2025.
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Lynn
To slightly correct the correction, he was a non-commissioned office, a
corporal.
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-- "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,Who evil spoke of everyone but God,Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"