Re: YASID "Sci-fi Books, Humans with Animal genes/modifications?"

On 3/16/2024 8:25 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/16/2024 6:02 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:

On 3/16/2024 3:31 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 3/15/2024 9:57 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:

On 3/15/2024 7:49 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 3/15/2024 5:38 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

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Personally, I have no interest in reddit, with or without an account.

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I honestly find the reddit-hate on usenet a bit dissapointing. Perhaps
because its the closest thing to usenet, but is not usenet. [snip]

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It's true that Reddit is a collection of "subreddits" the way Usenet is a collection of "newsgroups". However, there are certain differences:
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1. All subreddits are moderated, which, as anyone who has had to deal with moderated newsgroups knows, is a double-edged sword. Reddit admins also function as site-wide super-moderators and can ban Reddit account.
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2. Subreddit moderators have to follow site-wide Reddit content policies, which have been known to change. To quote https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct , "your subreddit and moderator team can be held accountable for individual moderator actions".
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3. Reddit has a "karma" system, which is based on other users upvoting or downvoting your posts and comments. Some subreddits require a certain amount of positive Reddit-wide karma to post and/or to comment. Reddit also requires a certain amount of karma to create new subreddits.
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4. Usenet clients are generally more robust than the default Reddit user interface. However, certain add-ons like "Reddit Enhancement Suite" (RES) provide additional functionality which is comparable to and sometimes even superior to what you will find in a typical Usenet client. I find the Reddit Enhancement Suite indispensable -- reading Reddit without it is painful.
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5. Usenet newsgroups are hierarchical -- "rec.arts.sf.written" -- which facilitates discovery. Subreddits are less structured.
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6. Curiously, Reddit spam is becoming more of an issue now that Large Language Models are better at impersonating humans.

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Need I point out that you are posting from eternal-september.org,
which exercises moderation of this newsgroup.
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In fact, most of us use ES specifically *because* rasfw here is
moderated, to filter out spam posts.
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Not all moderation is bad.

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Oh, I didn't say that moderation was bad. I said that it was a double-edged sword. We have seen it on Usenet as well as on Web-based SF-related forums like Space Battles, Sufficient Velocity, Questionable Questing, etc. Different forums have different policies and different moderators apply them differently, which leads to various controversies.
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Re: spam filtering, it's something that Usenet has been dealing with for a very long time. One of the first things that I saw when I subscribed to rec.arts.sf.written in April 1994 was an ongoing controversy over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic 's spam.

 Most of the moderation on usenet has blown up because the moderators allowed themselves to die off rather than recruit new moderators.  So nobody could post new messages to those moderated groups and reply yo old postings.
 The moderation on reddit is reactive rather than pre moderation like on usenet.  The moderators allow members of a group to post freely unless there is a problem.
 Lynn

Yeah. Moderation on usenet is pre-post - a post requires approval by
the moderator before anyone could see it. The meant that mods have to
read, and approve, *every single post* to the group.
Reddit moderating is post-post - they can remove posts after they've
hit the sub. They can also ban specific users for either a period of
time, or permanently. There's zero recourse, beyond appealing in a
private message to one of the sub's mods.
I've been permabanned from a number of subs, and banned and reinstated
on some others. Some I arguably deserved, others I did not; some subs
auto-ban any one who has posted in a sub they object to.
Most of the time, it isn't an issue.
pt