Re: OT Politics Re: Three Body Problem

On 8/23/24 08:58, Paul S Person wrote:

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 01:08:02 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:
 

On 8/22/24 23:48, Mad Hamish wrote:
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He won the Electoral College and Hillary Clinton won the
popular vote.
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Who landed on the moon first in your timeline?
Because in this one he won the 2016 election against Hilary Clinton
but lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

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The first statement was completely true. In 2016 Hillary won the popular
vote, but scum bucket won the Electoral College. In 2020 Biden won the
popular vote by an even larger margin than Hillary and the Electoral
College.

 Hiller "won" the popular vote only by a plurality. To actually /win/ a
race based on the popular vote she would have had to get a majority.

I don't believe this is true in most cases. For example, take a race for Governor of just about any state. Democrat candidate get 48%. Republican candidate gets 47%. Greens get 3%. The remaining 2% gets split among many fringe parties. The Democrat candidate will now be the Governor and there won't be a run off.
This was true in Kansas, Nevada, and Oregon in the 2022 elections. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_gubernatorial_elections for the actual info.
However, in the Primary elections, many parties require that a candidate get a majority before being declared as the party's candidate.

 IOW, if it were the popular vote that counted, 2016 would have seen a
runoff election [1] exactly two choices: Hillary and Trump. The
expectation being that one or the other would get more that 50% of the
votes.

Only if that is how the election laws were written. I think it would be wildly impractical to hold multiple national elections.

 [1] If you are wondering "when", since Jan 6 is pending, the answer I
would suggest is: everything would move back two months. The election
would be in September. The runoff, if needed, would be in November.
The Party Convention and Primary dates would have to be adjusted as
well.
 

At this point, the Electoral College is the only vote that counts in the
race for President/Vice President.

 That's been true since the beginning of the United States of America
(as opposed, IIRC, to the earlier confederation).
 

And Jules Verne landed on the moon first. Everyone knows that.

 Well, Beford & Cavor did, anyway.
 

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