Andre Norton and Heinlein juveniles (was: Highlights and Lowlights - August 2024)

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Date : 09. Sep 2024, 16:15:53
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On 9/8/2024 10:27 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
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I would say that "Witchworld" was the start of Norton's gear-change.
I believe I read the first one and didn't care for it at all, and rarely
clicked on her stuff after that.  For me the _The Zero Stone_/_Uncharted Stars_
duology was peak Norton.
I had a similar reaction to the first _Witch World_ novel and found its disproportionate popularity -- it was the only Norton novel nominated for the Hugo award -- somewhat puzzling. Moreover, there were dozens of other stories/novels set in the same world and the last one, _Silver May Tarnish_ (with Lyn McConchie), came out in 2005.
It's almost like not everyone shares my tastes. Odd, that.
Having said that, it's worth pointing out that, even though "late Norton" books are generally not as well regarded as earlier ones, it wasn't a cliff. For example, the _The Zero Stone_/_Uncharted Stars_
duology came out in 1968/1969, 5-6 years after the first _Witch World_ (1963).

I loved most of the Heinlein juvies, but never really clicked on
_Time For The Stars_, _Between Planets_ or _Red Planet_, and I read
Podkayne too late.
One thing that we determined back in the 1990s was that Usenet posters generally agreed that most Heinlein juveniles were "good", but everyone had a somewhat different rated list. For what it's worth, here is mine:
Tier 1
* Citizen of the Galaxy
* Have Space Suit -- Will Travel
Tier 2
* Tunnel in the Sky
* The Star Beast
* Time for the Stars
* Red Planet
Tier 3
* Starman Jones
* Farmer in the Sky
* The Rolling Stones
Tier 4
* Between Planets
* Space Cadet
* Podkayne of Mars
Tier 5
* Rocket Ship Galileo
(_Starship Troopers_ was originally written as a juvenile and rejected by Scribner as "too adult". And then Doubleday and Campbell rejected it as "too juvenile".)

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Sep 24 * Highlights and Lowlights - August 202424Tony Nance
6 Sep 24 +* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20242ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
6 Sep 24 i`- Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20241Tony Nance
6 Sep 24 `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 202421Titus G
6 Sep 24  `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 202420Tony Nance
7 Sep 24   +* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20247Titus G
7 Sep 24   i+* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20245ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
9 Sep 24   ii`* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20244Tony Nance
9 Sep 24   ii `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20243Cryptoengineer
9 Sep 24   ii  `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20242James Nicoll
12 Sep 24   ii   `- Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20241Tony Nance
9 Sep 24   i`- Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20241Tony Nance
7 Sep 24   `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 202412Michael F. Stemper
9 Sep 24    `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 202411Tony Nance
9 Sep 24     `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 202410ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
9 Sep 24      +* Andre Norton and Heinlein juveniles (was: Highlights and Lowlights - August 2024)5Ahasuerus
10 Sep 24      i`* Re: Andre Norton and Heinlein juveniles4Lynn McGuire
10 Sep 24      i `* Re: Andre Norton and Heinlein juveniles3Don_from_AZ
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11 Sep 24      i  `- Re: Andre Norton and Heinlein juveniles1Lynn McGuire
9 Sep 24      `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20244Cryptoengineer
10 Sep 24       `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20243Lynn McGuire
10 Sep 24        `* Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20242Don_from_AZ
11 Sep 24         `- Re: Highlights and Lowlights - August 20241Lynn McGuire

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