Re: Babel

In article <l6l7vlFn3uoU1@mid.individual.net>,
Chris Buckley  <alan@sabir.com> wrote:

On 2024-03-28, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:
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On 3/27/2024 5:46 PM, Tim Illingworth wrote:

On 3/27/2024 7:47 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
 

 
Regardless of nigglined edge cases, the point remains. Russia has
been invaded many times in history, while the US mainland has not.
 
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December 1814 not count?

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It was certainly an invasion, but 'one' is not 'many'.
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The point is, Russia has the notion of 'we're
going to get invaded again, unless we push out
the borders'. The US doesn't - its last mainland
invasion was over 200 years ago.
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Putin, and other Russian propagandists, are fond
of saying things like 'Russia has no border', meaning
that neighboring states independence is an unfortunate
circumstance which needs fixing.
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Once again, learn about 'Russki Mir'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_world
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The only solution I can see is the breakup of Russia.

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I listened to a youtube lecture of someone from the finnish military who
studieds russia all his life, and he agreed with the deeply rooted
paranoia of russia, and that it explains a lot about why they act the way
they do.

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obSF: _The Moon Goddess and the Sun_, Kingsbury was a 1986 novel that
as one thread had an immersive virtual reality "game" used for
Americans to understand this "deeply rooted paranoia of Russia" and
the related addiction to strong-man dictatorships.
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The novel was actually a very good collection of ideas for the time, a
Favorite bookcase book, that failed as a novel, IMO, due to its
lack of coherence.  It was an expansion of an earlier Hugo nominated
novella and added more neat ideas but lost its plot focus.
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Kingsbury didn't write much but he had nice fresh ideas.
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Chris

This might be the Finnish briefing from above; I found it very interesting:

https://ricochet.com/1214468/finnish-intelligence-officer-explains-the-russian-mindset/

I think Kingsbury's _Courtship Rite_ is a great book, but it seems to be
almost forgotten now.
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