Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein

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Date : 04. May 2024, 02:15:25
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On 5/3/2024 9:04 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Thu, 2 May 2024 21:17:10 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
 
On 5/2/2024 8:50 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On 1 May 2024 17:50:19 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
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On 1 May 2024 at 16:40:59 BST, "Paul S Person"
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
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On Wed, 01 May 2024 14:13:23 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
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Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 4/30/2024 8:54 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
On 2024-04-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
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The book is also an in depth examination on how society in the USA
changed from 1880 to 1980.  Technology changed radically in that time
and so did societal morals about sex and drugs, not for the better.
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So you are in favor of criminalizing sex and liberalizing drugs?
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I did not comment on laws, I commented on societal morals.
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That would be societal mores.
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Which are arbitrary.  Yours are informed by your religion.
Others are informed by their religion.   Some are informed
by no religion.
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No acknowledged or no recognized religion, that is.
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Indeed, it could be argued that societal mores /are/ the true religion
of the society holding to them.
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It could, but it would be a terrible argument that misuses and confuses
the term religion.
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Don't see why.
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Well, unless you are restricting "religion" to "organized religion",
of course.
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Religion: Thou shalt not kill because someone you can't see or hear said so!
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Social Mores: Don't kill because it takes away the benefits to our
society of the one killed, harms others emotionally and causes a
degradation of the social network that benefits all of us.
 Social mores aren't thought out, never mind intellectuallized. There
is no "because". Other than "because that is how we behave".
 
I would say that social mores evolve into something that helps the society survive.  We don't need to intellectualize it, we just do it because it helps keep us alive and prospering.
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.

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29 Apr 24 * "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein36Lynn McGuire
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1 May 24 iii i`* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein2Dimensional Traveler
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18 May 24 ii  `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein3Jerry Brown
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18 May 24 ii   `- Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein1Paul S Person
30 Apr 24 i`* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein2Lynn McGuire
30 Apr 24 i `- Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein1-dsr-
30 Apr 24 `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein18Christian Weisgerber
1 May 24  `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein17Lynn McGuire
1 May 24   +* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein8Dimensional Traveler
1 May 24   i`* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein7John Savard
17 May 24   i `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein6Robert Carnegie
17 May 24   i  +- Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein1Dimensional Traveler
22 May 24   i  +* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein2James Nicoll
6 Jun 24   i  i`- Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein1Robert Carnegie
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1 May 24   `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein8Paul S Person
1 May 24    `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein7Jaimie Vandenbergh
2 May 24     `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein6Paul S Person
3 May 24      `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein5Dimensional Traveler
3 May 24       `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein4Paul S Person
4 May 24        +- Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein1Dimensional Traveler
17 May 24        `* Re: "To Sail beyond the Sunset" by Robert A. Heinlein2Robert Carnegie
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