Re: King Laurin?

On Wed, 8 May 2024 17:56:02 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
 

Paul wrote:

Robert Woodward wrote:

 
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On the other hand, Roger Bacon lived in the 13th century
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bacon).

 
Yes he did. But he wasn't refurbished as a scientist, according to the
article you cite, until the 19th century. Before that, he was a
philosopher with a pragmatic bent. Also a wizard.
 
He is credited with discovering the importance of empirical testing
when his results differed from Aristotle. I should note that differing
from Aristotle got Galileo in a spot of trouble a few centuries later.
And that Copernicus published his heliocentric system only after he
was safely dead (even the Holy Office can't torture you if you are
dead)

 
Careful there. Back in the day, England's Holy Office conceivably could
continue to carve-up a corpse. For instance, if the torture theatre
audience started to become unruly because their entertainment ended too
soon.

 
The Spanish Inquisition, in its constant search for seizable assets,
was known to dig up dead "hidden Jews", flog the bones, and confiscate
the wealth left to the survivors.
 
So, yes, the /corpse/ could be violated. But the person was sublimely
unaffected. Or writhing in flames and so unable to feel anything more.
Whichever applied.
 
And it occurs to me that, if they were in Purgatory (as a Lutheran I
do not, of course, accept the existence of Purgatory), the additional
punishment meted out by the Holy Office might knock a few millenia off
their sentence. And so not be entirely superfluous (as the mother says
about the next-day's wedding to her daughter in /The Wedding Party/).
 

It was known then as 'Godly butchery' or 'three deaths'. Today, we
recognise the gruesome method of execution, /unique to England/,
that is seemingly synonymous with the medieval period as being
hanged, drawn and quartered.
 
<https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/hanging-drawing-quartering-what-why-treason-disembowelment/>

 
IIRC, at one time in England, miscreants were taken on a tour of the
country, hanged in various places for a while, then taken down before
they had managed to die from strangulation and then taken on to the
next favored location.
 
IIRC, /Braveheart/ illustrates "hanging, drawing, quartering" quite
well at the end. Only the last was fatal.