Re: The Warm Equations

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Sujet : Re: The Warm Equations
De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
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Date : 25. Jun 2024, 16:46:52
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On 24 Jun 2024 18:28:08 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
I can remember when riding a vehicle built by Boeing was a sensible
thing to do. Now it looks more like an act of desperation.
>
It's not just Boeing.  There was a day when most of the people heading
aerospace companies were engineers.
>
The last Boeing CEO who was an actual engineer was Phil Condit, who left
in 2003 after engineering the McDonnell-Douglas merger (which was great for
the company but terrible for th industry).  And he didn't even have a pilot's
license.  

Looks like "managing the design/testing/construction of air/space
craft" will need to be added to "managing nuclear reactors" as things
that people with MBAs should avoid.

As opposed to, say, managing a fast food joint or perhaps even a
ball-bearing plant [1]. Things where they aren't likely to actually
kill people by using their education.

[1] This may presuppose that the customers test sample the product to
ensure that it is acceptable. Then again, fast food joints may be
subject to health inspections that keep the quality up. Boeing, OTOH,
famously captured its regulators, forcing Trump to order grounding of
one of their more obvious mess-ups when the regulators' balked. (This,
together with Project Warp Speed, are the two things Trump did as
President that might actually be considered ... Presidential.)

IIRC, one of the regulators' arguments was that every new plane had
teething problems, and this was expected to have another 8 crashes
over the next five years, which was "acceptable". It should go without
saying that none of those who found such losses "acceptable" had any
intention of ever /flying/ on one of them -- their risk was 0, so of
course they found it acceptable.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Jun 24 * The Warm Equations70ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
23 Jun 24 +* Re: The Warm Equations5Cryptoengineer
24 Jun 24 i`* Re: The Warm Equations4Paul S Person
24 Jun 24 i `* Re: The Warm Equations3Scott Dorsey
25 Jun 24 i  `* Re: The Warm Equations2Paul S Person
25 Jun 24 i   `- Re: The Warm Equations1James Nicoll
24 Jun 24 +* Re: The Warm Equations23Lynn McGuire
24 Jun 24 i`* Re: The Warm Equations22James Nicoll
24 Jun 24 i +- Re: The Warm Equations1John Savard
24 Jun 24 i +- Re: The Warm Equations1Chris Buckley
24 Jun 24 i +- Re: The Warm Equations1Lynn McGuire
25 Jun 24 i +* Re: The Warm Equations9Robert Woodward
26 Jun 24 i i`* Re: The Warm Equations8Mad Hamish
26 Jun 24 i i `* Re: The Warm Equations7Dimensional Traveler
26 Jun 24 i i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Lynn McGuire
27 Jun 24 i i  `* Re: The Warm Equations5Jerry Brown
27 Jun 24 i i   +- Re: The Warm Equations1James Nicoll
27 Jun 24 i i   `* Re: The Warm Equations3Cryptoengineer
28 Jun 24 i i    `* Re: The Warm Equations2Jay E. Morris
28 Jun 24 i i     `- Re: The Warm Equations1Scott Dorsey
26 Jun 24 i +* Re: The Warm Equations4Lynn McGuire
30 Jun 24 i i`* Re: The Warm Equations3Michael F. Stemper
30 Jun 24 i i `* Re: The Warm Equations2Dimensional Traveler
30 Jun 24 i i  `- Re: The Warm Equations1Scott Dorsey
27 Jun 24 i `* Re: The Warm Equations5Joy Beeson
27 Jun 24 i  `* Re: The Warm Equations4James Nicoll
27 Jun 24 i   +* Re: The Warm Equations2Michael F. Stemper
27 Jun 24 i   i`- Re: The Warm Equations1Don
27 Jun 24 i   `- Re: The Warm Equations1BCFD 36
24 Jun 24 +* Re: The Warm Equations8Lynn McGuire
26 Jun 24 i`* Re: The Warm Equations7Mad Hamish
26 Jun 24 i +- Re: The Warm Equations1John Savard
26 Jun 24 i `* Re: The Warm Equations5Lynn McGuire
11 Jul 24 i  +* Re: The Warm Equations2William Hyde
11 Jul 24 i  i`- Re: The Warm Equations1Paul S Person
11 Jul 24 i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Lynn McGuire
9 Aug 24 i  `- Re: The Warm Equations1Bobbie Sellers
24 Jun 24 +* Re: The Warm Equations8John Savard
24 Jun 24 i`* Re: The Warm Equations7BCFD 36
25 Jun 24 i +* Re: The Warm Equations4Scott Dorsey
25 Jun 24 i i`* Re: The Warm Equations3Tony Nance
25 Jun 24 i i `* Re: The Warm Equations2Lynn McGuire
25 Jun 24 i i  `- Re: The Warm Equations1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
25 Jun 24 i `* Re: The Warm Equations2John Savard
25 Jun 24 i  `- Re: The Warm Equations1Charles Packer
25 Jun 24 +- Re: The Warm Equations1Don
28 Jun 24 +* Re: The Warm Equations21Lynn McGuire
28 Jun 24 i`* Re: The Warm Equations20Dimensional Traveler
28 Jun 24 i `* Re: The Warm Equations19Paul S Person
29 Jun 24 i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Jay E. Morris
29 Jun 24 i  +* Re: The Warm Equations15Dimensional Traveler
29 Jun 24 i  i`* Re: The Warm Equations14Cryptoengineer
29 Jun 24 i  i `* Re: The Warm Equations13Paul S Person
30 Jun 24 i  i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Dimensional Traveler
11 Jul 24 i  i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Robert Woodward
11 Jul 24 i  i  +- Re: The Warm Equations1Paul S Person
9 Aug 24 i  i  `* Re: The Warm Equations9Lynn McGuire
9 Aug 24 i  i   +* Re: The Warm Equations3Gary R. Schmidt
9 Aug 24 i  i   i`* Re: The Warm Equations2Lynn McGuire
10 Aug 24 i  i   i `- Re: The Warm Equations1D
9 Aug 24 i  i   `* Re: The Warm Equations5Scott Dorsey
9 Aug 24 i  i    +* Re: The Warm Equations3Lynn McGuire
10 Aug 24 i  i    i`* Re: The Warm Equations2Bobbie Sellers
10 Aug 24 i  i    i `- Re: The Warm Equations1Lynn McGuire
9 Aug 24 i  i    `- Re: The Warm Equations1Jay E. Morris
1 Jul 24 i  `* Re: The Warm Equations2Jay E. Morris
1 Jul 24 i   `- Re: The Warm Equations1Jay E. Morris
1 Jul 24 +- Re: The Warm Equations1Robert Carnegie
6 Aug 24 `* Re: The Warm Equations2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
6 Aug 24  `- Re: The Warm Equations1Paul S Person

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