Sujet : Re: OT NASA CHAPEA Mars Simulation.
De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Groupes : rec.arts.sf.writtenDate : 20. Jul 2024, 16:30:49
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 18:07:25 -0400, Tony Nance <
tnusenet17@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 7/18/24 11:27 PM, Titus G wrote:
On 19/07/24 04:57, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 10/07/2024 05:39, Titus G wrote:
Four volunteers have spent 378 days living in a 1,700-square-foot space
3D-printed by NASA to simulate conditions on Mars. Fascinating.
"The volunteers grew their own vegetables, maintained equipment,
participated in so-called Marswalks and faced stressors that actual
space travelers to Mars could experience, including 22-minute
communication delays with Earth."
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/07/nx-s1-5032120/nasa-mars-simulation-volunteers-year
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Four people in 1700 square feet for over a year? (If it was a SF story,
at least two of them would have gone mad or been killed.)
What about water? Gravity?
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There have been previous exercises.
Thank you.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
Over 3 acres.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HI-SEAS
Wow. 6 people in a smaller area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARS-500
Similar. 6 people but a period of 520 days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Running
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:-)
Not a simulation. 1 person with a 4 person spaceship to himself for a
fairly short time.
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"All models are wrong, but some are useful." - George Box
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Generally: it is often impossible and/or unreasonable to do an identical
simulation, model, practice run, etc. That does not mean these things
will not yield insightful results or info. (It does not mean they will,
either.)
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I haven't looked into any details about the above-mentioned stuff, so I
have no idea what valuable info can be gleaned (if any); but I'd want to
know more before rejecting them out of hand.
/Silent Running/ is a motion picture, a work of fiction.
It is not a simulation.
That is why it can, indeed, be rejected out-of-hand.
-- "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,Who evil spoke of everyone but God,Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"