Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike

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De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
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Date : 24. Jul 2024, 18:29:32
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 14:55:15 -0400, Mark Jackson
<mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:

On 7/23/2024 12:23 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 12:23:01 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
 
Charles Packer  <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
>
Was anybody here affected by the CrowdStrike Thing?
My nephew's wife flew to Europe that day without incident.
>
Not personally.  Computers were down all day at our youngest son's
workplace (Police Accountability Board); the one person I know who was
flying that day got here from JFK OK (after a series of earlier
cancellations that kept her from getting here from Amsterdam on Monday).
>
People trust computers too much.
>
True, but what's more relevant here is that people *rely* too much on
computers not failing, either through poor risk assessment or the drive
for "efficiency" (see below).
>
A few more of these things and the gummint will step in to /make/
computers trustworthy. Talk about nightmares.
>
Well, absent a countervailing force the capitalist imperative
discourages carrying the cost of robustness, and eventually eliminates
it entirely.  Do you have a suggestion other than regulation?

Nope. I consider it inevitable. Computers are becoming a /utility/ (in
some contexts), and utilities have long been, if not run by the
gummint, then closely regulated by them. Alternately, some aspects of
computing may be seen as exactly as fundamental as a road or a bridge.

Just as I consider it inevitable that some change will be imposed so
that people who threaten public employees (which is a crime in most if
not all cases) can be identified [1]. No matter what changes are
forced on the e-infrastructure.

[1] By law enforcement upon presentation of a Warrant or other Court
Order, not by monitoring. But the e-infrastructure will have to be
there: ISPs and others that should know who their customers are that
respond "we have no idea who it is" will have to be required to have a
very clear idea of who it is. Anonymity will vanish.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Jul 24 * xkcd: CrowdStrike93Lynn McGuire
23 Jul 24 +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike91Charles Packer
23 Jul 24 i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1G
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3D
23 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
24 Jul 24 ii `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1D
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Scott Dorsey
23 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Mark Jackson
24 Jul 24 ii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 ii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
23 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike32Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike9Cryptoengineer
24 Jul 24 iii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike8Paul S Person
24 Jul 24 iii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 iii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike6Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 iii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 iii    `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 iii     `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Lynn McGuire
26 Jul 24 iii      `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Scott Dorsey
27 Jul 24 iii       `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
25 Jul 24 ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike10Scott Dorsey
25 Jul 24 iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Jaimie Vandenbergh
25 Jul 24 iiii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Dimensional Traveler
26 Jul 24 iiii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Gary R. Schmidt
26 Jul 24 iiii `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Jaimie Vandenbergh
25 Jul 24 iii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
25 Jul 24 iii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Lynn McGuire
26 Jul 24 iii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
26 Jul 24 iii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
27 Jul 24 iii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
27 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike12Lynn McGuire
27 Jul 24 ii +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Paul S Person
28 Jul 24 ii i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
28 Jul 24 ii i +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2D
28 Jul 24 ii i i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
28 Jul 24 ii i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 ii +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Robert Carnegie
1 Aug 24 ii i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Mike Van Pelt
2 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Mike Van Pelt
3 Aug 24 ii    `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
23 Jul 24 i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Cryptoengineer
24 Jul 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Mad Hamish
24 Jul 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
24 Jul 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
24 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
25 Jul 24 ii   `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike42BCFD 36
1 Aug 24 ii+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
1 Aug 24 ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike40Your Name
2 Aug 24 ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike39Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 ii  +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike36Lynn McGuire
3 Aug 24 ii  i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike35Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike33Your Name
4 Aug 24 ii  i i+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike29Lynn McGuire
4 Aug 24 ii  i ii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike20Your Name
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2vallor
4 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Cryptoengineer
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Lynn McGuire
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii+* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike14Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i iiii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike13Your Name
5 Aug 24 ii  i iiii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike12Paul S Person
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike11Your Name
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Titus G
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii   `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Paul S Person
6 Aug 24 ii  i iiii    `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike6Your Name
7 Aug 24 ii  i iiii     `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike5Paul S Person
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii      `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4Your Name
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii       `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Paul S Person
8 Aug 24 ii  i iiii        `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i iiii         `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
4 Aug 24 ii  i iii`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Scott Dorsey
5 Aug 24 ii  i ii`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike8D
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike7Robert Carnegie
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  +- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  +* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike4D
10 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike3Your Name
10 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2D
10 Aug 24 ii  i ii  i  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Your Name
9 Aug 24 ii  i ii  `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1D
4 Aug 24 ii  i i+- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
9 Aug 24 ii  i i`* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Robert Carnegie
9 Aug 24 ii  i i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Titus G
4 Aug 24 ii  i `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Mark Jackson
3 Aug 24 ii  `* Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike2Your Name
3 Aug 24 ii   `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Paul S Person
2 Aug 24 i`- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Jay E. Morris
24 Jul 24 `- Re: xkcd: CrowdStrike1Gary R. Schmidt

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