Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite

Paul S Person wrote:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 22:15:25 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
 

On Thu, 08 Aug 2024 18:35:55 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
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The only solution is to completely eliminate single-use
plastics.    I'd even go so far as to include milk and
juice jugs in that ban (glass is far more recyclable
and aside shipping weight, similar in cost).
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Paper milk cartons can eliminate the plastic lid.

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What does "single use" mean? I understand in the context of fast food
cups but how about less common items like those 4 liter milk jugs I
get my milk in (and generally put out each week in the recycling bin)
or similar such items - for instance my cheddar comes wrapped in
plastic and once the cheese is eaten, that plastic wrapper isn't
getting used again <grin>

 He is explicitly including milk and juice, suggesting we go back to
glass.
 Which is fine, so long as, when I drop one on the floor and it breaks,
he comes over, cleans up the mess, and gives me my money back.
 Plastic jugs don't break as often, although I suppose you could get
one to do so if you tried hard enough.
 There is a /reason/ we replaced glass with plastic, at least in some
cases.
 Interestingly, while, until they were banned, one-time-use plastic
shopping bags were taxed (as were and still are papter one-time-use
paper bags), smaller bags used to contain fruits and veggies were
exempt, despite clearly being one-time-use.
 The plastic and paper bags, of course, were merely /intended/ for
one-time use. They could be, and were by some, used again and again
and again.

I used the same plastic bag for three years, approximately 200 trips to the grocery store.  I kept it wadded up in a corner of my backpack, where it didn't take up space needed by more valuable things, like books.
They are really quite durable, but I didn't care to run a test-to-destruction with my groceries and replaced it.
The polyester bags take up far to much space, so I generally don't have one with me. I still carry a plastic bag.
When I order online my food comes delivered in thirteen or fourteen bags, so they are basically "single use polyester bags".
William Hyde