Re: Three Body Problem

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Sujet : Re: Three Body Problem
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
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Date : 20. Aug 2024, 19:38:08
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2024, Paul S Person wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 19:54:16 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, Paul S Person wrote:
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 00:00:02 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
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On 8/18/2024 11:19 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 13:42:46 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Incredibly sad.  And the Democrat candidate here in the USA is talking
freezing food prices and making grocery stores report any changes in
their prices, causing huge paperwork and never ending bureaucracies.
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The presumed Democratic candidate for President (she won't be the
candidate until the convention chooses her) appears to be talking
about artificially raising prices and keeping them raised far longer
than the economic situation requires. And I don't want to see a quote
from 5 years ago on the topic; people's ideas change over time.
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I suspect you have happened on a Putin/Trump Talking Point and have
swallowed it whole. Surely by now you realize that these things are
useful only as projections onto the Dems of what Trump (and so the
Republicans, as long as they do not disavow him and all his works and
all his ways) would like to do. Which is fine in itself -- it's always
helpful to know what the other guys are planning.
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Please do not lie about me.  This Aug 16, 2024 speech by Kamala Harris on
Price Fixing is on CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/16/business/harris-price-gouging-ban-inflation/index.html
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"New York CNN  — Food prices have surged by more than 20% under the
Biden-Harris administration, leaving many voters eager to stretch their
dollars further at the grocery store."
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"On Friday, Vice President Kamala Harris said she has a solution: a federal
ban on price gouging across the food industry."
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Lynn
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Sorry Paul, it's there black on white. Let me give you an example of what
can happen when the government fixes prices. When I was young, the
socialist state of sweden I was living in had one phone company. During me
BBS intense youth that could lead to phone bills in the 100s of dollars.
The socialists were proud of their government monopoly. Oh, and note that
in the beginning only the governmetn approved phone was allowed, so no
choice for you.
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Yes, indeed:
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-- excerpts from article begin
“My plan will include new penalties for opportunistic companies that
exploit crises and break the rules,” Harris said at a campaign event.
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To his point, a campaign fact sheet said that Harris also plans to
make more resources available for “the federal government to identify
and take on price-fixing and other anti-competitive practices in the
food and grocery industries.”
-- excerpts from article end
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Not "freezing food prices and making grocery stores report any changes
in their prices", as claimed above.
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So, yes, there it is in black and white -- this article does /not/
support the Trump/Putin talking point that she will be "freezing food
prices and making grocery stores report any changes in their prices".
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There is a clear difference between Putin/Trump talking points and
reality. I suggest you consider checking on the facts. Or at least
reading the articles you claim support the position you are defending
to ensure that they do, in fact, do so.
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All she is promising to do is /actually enforce the laws/. I can
remember when the Republican Party was the Party of Law and Order.
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But no more.
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(If this post actually produces a confirming article from a credible
news source, then this post will have served a purpose.)
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Shall we continue?
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From the same text...
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" There’s just one issue: Harris’ proposal could create more problems than
the one it’s trying to solve, some economists say.
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Gavin Roberts studied anti-price gouging laws some states passed during
the pandemic. One of the biggest effects he observed, especially at
grocery stores, was that these laws motivated people “to go buy goods more
than they would if prices had risen.”
A customer refuels a vehicle at a Mobil gas station in Los Angeles,
California, US, on Tuesday, April 2, 2024.
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When prices are high, in most cases, the best policy action in response is
actually taking no action, Roberts, the chair of Weber State University’s
economics department, told CNN.
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Which also has /nothing/ to do with "freezing food prices and making
grocery stores report any changes in their prices".
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You are incorrect. I was also commenting on Lynn, please stick to that.
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I am correct. Please stick to the topic and stop trying to help Lynn
escape the consequences of his TPPT addiction.
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No Paul, you are wrong here. Any common sense interpretation of that text makes it obvious that Lynn is right and you are wrong.

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