Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite

On 8/20/2024 5:37 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 8/20/2024 4:45 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 8/20/24 09:23, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 8/20/2024 4:34 AM, D wrote:

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, Joy Beeson wrote:
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 13:06:58 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
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If its a plastic fiber, you've done little or nothing to reduce
plastic waste. How many single-use bags are required to equal the
weight of your reusable?

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Despite being washed in hot water with bleach, my reusable bags were
well over thirty years old when I set them next to a leaking battery
and they all got large holes in the bottom.
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Note that it is not the age, but how many times you reuse them. I think common knowledge is that you must use one of those reusables about 10 000 times in order for it to come out favourably against single use plastic bags.
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Needless to say, many hip and woke teenagers, probably throw them away after a month or two when they become dirty or when a new shiny one is received at the next convention.

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https://sites.psu.edu/marabelleolivia/2021/02/25/are-reusable-bags- worth-it/
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This site, which is mainly concerned with greenhouse gases, points
out that all the reusables use more resources per bag than the
single use ones, but works out the break-even points:
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Paper: 4 uses
Polypropylene: 14
Cotton: 173
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So, it looks like the plastic reusables are a lot better than I
thought.
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     But they do not beat the natural fibre bags at all.

 Huh?
 The numbers say that you'll produce less pollution using a
cotton bag than single use plastic ones only if you use the
cotton one 173 times.
 Now, that *is* in line with reality - people can use them that
many times. But I was very surprised to see that the polypropylene
bags needed only 14 uses to do so.
 I fully expected to see cotton producing less pollution than the
polypropylene, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 

They are probably including anything and everything from collecting the seed thru making the bag for cotton.
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