Re: Politics OT-Re: Books Banned in Utah.

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Sujet : Re: Politics OT-Re: Books Banned in Utah.
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Date : 21. Aug 2024, 19:58:17
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On 8/21/24 09:21, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 09:18:51 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
 
On 8/19/24 23:54, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 09:29:21 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
Which ones?  The usual suspects have accused every Republican
president since Eisenhower of being a Nazi.  (Except Ford, for
some reason; him, they just tried to assassinate.  Twice.)
>
Tried and, as with Reagan and Trump failed.
>
Did Ike ever get accused of being a Nazi? Seems his activities 1942-45
should have forever inoculated him against that particular canard.
Ditto Truman, JFK and Nixon all of whom served in combat. (Well Truman
was a WW1 artilleryman)
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Democrat Truman was never accused of dictatorial tendencies.
He could threaten violence for bad reviews of his daughter Margaret.
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Republican Eisenhower was only fascist toward gays and Communists
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Democrat JFK was left in pain from his wartime injuries.
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Lyndon Baines Johnson served like Nixon in the USN which
allowed him a lot of time in Hollywood getting lessons.
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Republican Nixon only technically served in Combat but did
work important to the War Effort. He succumbed to the idea of power
as the president which lead to Watergate and his resignation.
But for wartime
<https://thepurcellchronicles.blogspot.com/2017/05/commander-richard-m-nixon-and-world-war.html>
No one ever called these men NAZIs except maybe extreme pacifists.
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Same for Republican Gerald Ford. Saved by a Gay man from
assassination.  Gay Man's life was ruined by the publicity.
>
and Democrat Jimmy Carter, victim of Republican chicanery.
 If it is true that Bush I cut a deal with Iran to not free the
hostages until Reagan was elected, then for "chicanery" we should read
"treason".
I really have no idea about Bush I and Iran but I think
someone did do that deal.

 
Republican Reagan was not a NAZI but he was a tool of the
Monied Interests with his Trickle Down economics which have never
worked for the people at the end of the trickle down stream as it
is too weak when it gets to the bottom to support the recipients
in good health.
>
Republican Bush I was never accused of Fascist leaning but
his Father was and maybe with some justice.  So was good old Joe
Kennedy. Lots of American elite were Fascist and Isolationists.
It was the mood of the time lea\d by heroic but naive Charles
Lindbergh.
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Democrat Clinton played some cool jazz which is assumed
to be anti-Fascist.  However he loosened the rules on Investment
banking which gave us 2008 severe recession.
>
Republican Bush II was never accused of Fascism but he
was in the press accused of gross stupidity and took us into
the idea that Iraq was a Terrorist state with weapons of Mass
Destruction and got rid of an anti-terrorist dictator.
>
Democrat Obama of course was convicted of being black
by Moscow Mike McConnell who swore that Obama would not have
a second term but Obama was good enough that a majority of
the American People re-elected him.
>
Alleged Republican Trump proved that we could do
much worse than Bush II. He wants the powers of an autocrat
but mainly to avoid prosecution for his many derelictions of
presidential duties and laws governing the President. He
adopted pre-WW II ideas of isolationism and elite fascism.
In the outline by the so-called Christian Dominionists called
2025 these Fascist slugs claims they will institute a Theocracy
ruled by very un-Christian and equally un-American ideas.
>
Democrat Biden is the best since FDR. If only he had
a majority in the Congress for a longer time those monied
interests might be a bit less monied.
>
The reason presidents are restricted to only two terms
is because the Republicans feared a Democratic-led dictatorship
but of course in the 1930s the monied interests tried to
overthrow Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a retired Marine General
exposed them for their plotting.  1932,1936,1940 & 1944 he was
re-elected for leading the nation through the Depression and of
course for successfully leading the nation during WW II. By the
time the WW II ended he was dead He had been crippled by Polio
years before he became president and while with braces he could
stand he had strong young men around to support him. But being
in charge of a nation and a war left him with few physical
resources and he died in the service of his nation at 63 YOA.
Thank heaven he picked Truman as VP.
 Back in the 80's, my mother (a knee-jerk Republican: mention "Kennedy"
and her right knee would jerk and she'd say "Chappaquiddick") confided
in me that the only reason FDR served four terms was because the Dems
had /suspended the two term limit/ so he could do so. The reality, of
course, is that the two-term limit came later, mostly to prevent a
recurrence of a four-term Presidency.
 As I've said before about the Republican Party: the rot runs deep,
very deep indeed.
Well it started with Rutherford B. Hayes when to get the
electoral votes he needed he made a deal to pull the Federal troops
out of the former Confederate states.
Some Republicans did not get the word and continued to
support emancipation sic Earl Warren in the 1960s and my parents
were Republicans based on the idea that it was the party of
Lincoln but it was merely the front for the Monied Interests.
bliss
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