Re: OT Rant About Christians.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 17:06:46 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 18/08/24 04:36, Paul S Person wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 16:48:56 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 8/16/2024 8:40 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

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And who ever said Chrstian Nationalism had anything to do with Jesus
Christ, who clearly stated that his kingdom is /not/ of this world?

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If you also agree that Western cultures worship of commercialism,
including borrowing and lending, of Christmas also has nothing to do
with Jesus Christ, it is not too difficult to realise that most
Christians are brilliant if unknowing hypocrites.

 

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The claim that we "worship" commercialism is one I have never
understood.

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With hindsight, my choice of the word "worship" was foolish as it was
extreme. My point was that Jesus, crucified about a week after his
terrorist gang of twelve violently invaded and assaulted Temple
officials/contractors carrying out the Temple's commercial activities,
stood for the exact opposite of commercialism which is the real emphasis
of the Christian's Christmas.

Which would be a fine point, were it not for the fact that the
Christian Christmas involves only /one/ Gift. All other gifts are
(well, should be) references to that one.

A fair number of Christians are as disgusted by its commercialization
as you appear to be.

IOW, it can be argued that it is not the /Christian's/ Christmas that
is commercialized. Which is why it is more commonly called "the
Holiday Season", and starts (at latest) the day after Thanksgiving and
extends to (at earliest) New Year's Day. That is to say, I don't think
it's been extended to the day after Halloween or Epiphany. Yet.

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The NZ Prime Minister, (who until recently spelt cat with a k), is a
devout member of some weird USA Christian cult that preaches that Jesus
Christ's kingdom is on earth right now and that the righteous believers
like himself, are those being rewarded right now with monetary wealth.

 

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As others have noted, the cult is one of the "prosperity gospel"
groups. This works well for the leader, who gets lots of money from
his followers, but not so well for the followers, who may wait their
entire lives for their reward. The leaders are among the guys you may
have read about who have golden cars and very large mansions as a
result of the money they rake in. The end up in the news because the
IRS tends to get after them because they register as Churches for tax
purposes, and there are expectations that go along with that type of
non-profit organization involving where the money goes.

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That was interesting. Unsubstantiated rumour is that the current NZ
prime minister's rise to a management position and wealth in the USA was
due to his religious connections as he has been completely useless as a
politician behaving like a CEO surrounded by yes men.

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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"