Re: “Did nobody stop to think what might happen in an emergency in space?”

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Date : 29. Aug 2024, 17:02:52
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 14:40:58 -0400, Kevrob <kjrobinson@mail.com>
wrote:

On 8/27/2024 12:28 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:33:53 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
 
On 8/26/2024 5:15 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 8/26/2024 4:36 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 8/26/2024 2:49 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 8/26/2024 11:34 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On 25 Aug 2024 15:22:34 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
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>
For Apollo-Soyuz, the Soviets made up some adaptor boxes that went
from >>>>>>>>> the
American space suit connections to the Russian ones (as well as the >>>>>>>>> adaptor
ring to connect the two capsules).  I am surprised this is not a >>>>>>>>> solution.
>
Sadly, the Soviets (and their technology) are long gone.
>
I beg to differ - Soviet technology is still here. Ukraine has
destroyed 3336 tanks so far, most of those from the soviet era.
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The still use Soviet Soyuz boosters.
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One might note that Putin desires the return of the Sovyetky Soyuz.
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Don't forget the 14,000 soviet nuclear weapons.  Thousands of the
battlefield nuclear weapons are being distributed to the Russian
troops right now.  The Ukranian advance is 300 miles inside Russia and
they are not going to burn Moscow this time.
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While even one nuke in a Western City would be Very Bad News, its
legitimate to wonder how many Soviet nuclear bombs are operational.
>
American nukes, and presumably Soviet/Russian ones, have the inital
fission element include a neutron generator as part of the ignition.
This uses some isotopes of relatively short half-lifes, such as tritium,
which gives the bombs a limited shelf life before they need to be
refurbished.
>
pt
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I suggest that we do not want to find out as apparently several are
targeted for Berlin and a few other German cities.  I am not sure if
London is targeted.
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Apparently?  Not Sure?  or baseless speculation.
>
“WW3 WATCH: As Traditional Strategic Nuclear Deterrence Wears Off,
Russian Doctrine Threshold Gets Lowered and Navy Trains for Preemptive
Tactical Nuke Attacks”
>
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/ww3-watch-as-traditional-strategic-nuclear-deterrence-wears/
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“Add to that the fact that Moscow’s ‘red lines’ have been breached one
after another – as I write Ukraine is striking Russian territory with
NATO weapons like there’s no tomorrow – and we can see how the situation
has impossibly escalated.”
>
“It now has arisen that Russia has trained its navy to target sites deep
inside Europe with nuclear-capable missiles in a potential – by now
virtually certain – conflict with Nato”
>
“Moscow had rehearsed using tactical nuclear weapons in the early stages
of a conflict with a major world power, […] planning for a series of
overwhelming strikes across western Europe.”
>
“You read it right – EARLY STAGES: not using strikes as a last measure,
but as an early salvo.”
>
I do not know what the leaders of NATO are thinking but I hope that they
die in the first salvo of the CANNED SUNSHINE.
 
There's nothing really new here.
 
This was the Soviet strategy for conquering Europe in the 70s/80s:
first whack the heck of them with nukes and then move right in.
 
The REFORGER depots (remember them?) were prime targets.
>
>
This all reminds me of Hackett's _Third World War_ and Clancy's
_ Red Storm Rising_.
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https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/hackett-third-world-war/

That was pretty much common knowledge among those interested
(professionally or otherwise) in the topic.

They never tried it. Perhaps they wondered the same thing NATO did:
how an army of draftees whose /entire political indoctrination/ was
that they were being trained and stationed out of the USSR to /defend
against a NATO attack/ would react if told to attack rather than
defend.

Not to mention how the same draftees, given how they were treated,
might behave if actually given ammunition for their weapons: attack
NATO or shoot all the officers/NCOs they could find and head back
home?

Something it is just as well we never found out.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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