On 2024-09-06, Paul S Person <
psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 19:53:45 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
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On 9/5/24 10:42, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 9/3/24 13:15, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 08:11:29 -0700, Paul S Person
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I would have thought it was mostly (a) to ensure only citizens voted
and (b) that nobody attempted to vote twice (though in a recent
election there was a scandal concerning one group of immigrants who
professed not to speak English but were caught going from station to
station voting multiple times - we're talking about a team of about
20-30 individuals who were though to have voted 15-20 times each)
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I would be very interested to know where this happened.
Another rumor put out by the loser in 2000.
So far the only voters doing things illegally have
been Native Born White American Republicans.
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I don't think that's entirely fair.
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I think one of the "sister acts" (surviving sister voted for both
herself and her deceased sister) involved votes for Democrats.
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But these minor problems were not only caught but did not influence
the elections they occurred in. IOW, nobody won or lost by 1 vote.
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It is, however, true that all the spectacular stuff (forcing a House
District election to be completely redone, alternate Elector slates
done so incompetently that those on them are liable to trial, ballots
so confusing that votes for the Republican candidate actually went to
a thrid party candidate in Florida in 2000, etc, etc) was done by
Republicans. Since, say, 2000 or so anyway.
Really? I suppose given your own definition of spectacular...
Here's a couple easily found just in Democratic primaries:
The results of the City of Bridgeport, Connecticut Democratic
mayoral primary election, which was held on September 12, 2023,
were overturned due to absentee ballot fraud in an election where
only 251 votes separated the winner (Joseph Ganim) and the loser
(John Gomes). Superior Court Judge William Clark ordered that a new
primary election between Ganim (the party-endorsed candidate) and
Gomes (the challenger) should be held because an unusually large
number of absentee ballots that were counted had been illegally
placed in drop boxes by two unauthorized ballot distributors who
were Ganim supporters: Wanda Geter-Pataky (a Democratic Town
Committee member and the Leader of Voting District 136) and Eneida
Martinez (a candidate for City Council). The court determined that
videos of Geter-Pataky and Martinez illegally dropping off stacks
of votes into various drop boxes “provided evidence of ballot
harvesting, in violation of state law.” Geter-Pataky made 10 drops
either directly or indirectly, and Martinez made 5 separate drops
of multiple ballots. The court also found “the volume of ballots
mishandled is such it calls the result of the primary election in
serious doubt and unable to determine the legitimate result of the
primary.”
Judge Jeff Weill overturned the results of the June 2020 First Ward
Alderman Democratic primary election in Aberdeen, Mississippi, due
to absentee ballot fraud, and has ordered a new election. Nicholas
Holliday was declared the winner of the June primary by a margin of
37 votes over Robert Devaull. After Devaull filed a lawsuit
challenging the results of the race, the Monroe County District
court found that 66 of the 84 absentee ballots cast should not have
been counted because they were not valid. A notary, Dallas Jones,
was arrested for election fraud for notarizing ballots without
watching voters sign ballots or checking their identification. In
addition to the absentee ballot fraud, the court found evidence of
intimidation at the polls by various public officials, including
Mayor Maurice Howard, candidate Holliday, and Aberdeen Police Chief
Henry Randle, which constituted violations of anti-electioneering
rules at polling places.
Locally, we had the duly anointed Democratic Congressional candidate,
Wendy Rosen, who had to withdraw after she was found guilty of voting
in both Maryland and Florida for two presidential elections. (I agree,
not a spectacular effect, but a rather spectacular sense of
privilege.)
Chris
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