Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear

On 9/19/2024 5:09 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 9/19/24 13:49, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 9/18/2024 11:06 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 9/18/24 16:51, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 9/18/2024 6:39 AM, quadibloc wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 3:46:12 +0000, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
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    Then of course we have the imbeciles in charge of the bits
of the great planet who simply must maintain nuclear deterrence so
maybe we will be extinct of ourselves before our fossil follies
do us in.

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Although I agree with much of what you have written, the phrasing of
this does not sound right to me.
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It implies that it would be a good thing if Joseph Robinette Biden
decided to stop being imbecilic, and unilaterally abolished the
nuclear capabilities of the United States of America.
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When, of course, it is obvious that the result of doing so would be
to bring into existence a world utterly dominated by the cruel
tyrants Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.
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The problem is their fault. The problem is that evil dictators have
their hands on nuclear weapons, which keeps the world in a dangerous
situation.
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We are stuck in an unpleasant situation that is not of our making, and
we are trying to make the best we can of it; to survive and remain
free.
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John Savard

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At least ten countries have nuclear weapons: USA, Russia, China, United Kingdom, France, Germany, India, Pakistan, Israel, Turkey.
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Several other countries are rumored to have nuclear weapons: Taiwan, South Africa, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Poland, North Korea, Cuba, etc.
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Lynn
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Israel is presumed to have Nuclear weapons. North Korea definitely has them. Iran is trying to get theirs built but Western nations and Israelis seem to be interfering with that objective.
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     I doubt Cuba is wasting it time and money on nuclear weapons
as they seem unaggressive except on the PR front as they send doctors
and other medical personnel to African nations at times.
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     bliss

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At one point, Cuba had several nuclear weapons installed by the Russians.  It caused the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, maybe you have heard of it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

      Yes I was paying attention to the daily news in 1962.

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I have no idea if those Russian nuclear weapons were actually removed or not.  Note, there were both nuclear missiles and nuclear bombers in Cuba.
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Lynn
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     I believe they were and in case without maintenance they would
likely be useless 62 years later. Russia stopped supporting Cuba when
the USSR went away and was replaced by the Russian Federationm formerly
a democracy now under Putin, a kleptocracy or government by thieving oligarchs. Autocrats make mistakes like invading other nations by treating people who tell them the truth badly. Then the oligarchs
stole from the Armed Forces as well which did not help with the invasion of the Ukraine.

They were removed. The US and the SU negotiated an end to the crisis, in
which SU nuclear weapons were removed from Cuba, and US nuclear missiles
were removed from Turkey.
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