Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear

On 9/21/24 02:32, D wrote:

  On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
 

On 9/20/2024 3:12 AM, D wrote:

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Titus G wrote:
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On 19/09/24 16:34, Titus G wrote:

On 19/09/24 10:35, William Hyde wrote:

D wrote:

On Tue, 17 Sep 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 9/17/2024 6:11 PM, quadibloc wrote:

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Global warming is not an imaginary spectre. The science involved is
really basic stuff.

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Any Global Warming is not caused by humans so your basic thesis is
wrong. Climates change all the time.  Just about all of it is due to
that big fusion reactor in the sky that is so incredibly inefficient
(1.8%) but works so well with it's 10+ billion years of fuel.

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This is the truth! It can be proven easily. Go out during the day, and
measure the temperature. Then go out again, when the sun is not
shining, and measure the temperature. It will be lower.
Reading the modern press, you easily get the idea that the sun does
not affect the climate at all, but this is actually wrong, and has
been proven by science.

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Rarely has so short a posting contained so much ignorance.

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(Excluding, of course, the innovative and brilliant proposed scientific
study of going out, coming in and going out again, a tool whose
usefulness may have been overlooked by the scientific establishment as
well as the modern press.)
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Or is it a challenge?
Hmmm.
D agrees with Dimwire arguing with Fourbricks.
That will be difficult to better.
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Here is my entry. (5 lines instead of six.)
On August 12th, NZ's Climate Institute announced the purchase of a $20
million Supercomputer, an investment in NIWA’s world-leading climate,
marine and freshwater science and advanced technologies. If we had D's
post of 17th September before then, we could have saved millions by just
buying thermometers, umbrellas and torches for our research staff.
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You do have a point. Enormous amount of money is wasted at the moment on nonsense climate research. Instead if could be used to save millions of lives in the third world, lower taxes and generally improve peoples lives.
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As we all know, instead it is used to reinforce climate conspiracies in order to allow the politicians to move to an authoritarian society based on eco-fascism.
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Note the similarity with medieval christianity. Only "we" (the church or today, the policitians) can save you (the public), but you must suffer and pay tax. But... you can purchase peace in the form of "climate compensation", only then may we forgive you your sins.

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That is a very good comparison of CO2 taxes with indulgences.

 Thank you Lynn, that is the word that escaped me.
 

The second real problem with the global warming XXXX XXXX climate change XXXX XXXX climate disruption crowd is the fact that the world's largest CO2 generator is China at 33% (2022).  China will not honor anyone's request to stop their CO2 emissions.  The USA is second at 13%.  India is third at 7%.
  https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/
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Lynn
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 Yes! I think this is probably the best proof ever, that the climate hysteria is just a political control tool. Do we see any serious efforts on behalf of China, or the world to pressure china? Not at all. Do we see any serious efforts at building nuclear, no.
 What do we see?
 Taxes, taxes, taxes, except perhaps, the increasing income, and nr of international tax free jobs for our elite politicians.
 As long as our politicians don't deregulate nuclear, and pressure china with a global boycott, to cut down to at least 13%, it is clear that not even elite politicians believe in what they are saying or any "doomsday".
 The only thing we hear is that the western man should be taxed to death and return to medieval living conditions. What this has led too instead, is an enormous gain of extreme left and extreme right parties, who promise jobs and a good life to the gullible.
 As long as western politicians insist on eco-fascism, eventually they will drive one of the extremists to >50% of the votes if things get bad enough, and then it will be game over for that (or those) country (countries) for at least a generation or two before they shake of the authoritarian yoke.

What a life what we see is a rebounding economy with relatively
low tax rates following #45's disastrous tax cut to the rich and to
large corporations.
Now building vast arrays of solar electric panels and vast
fields of mirrors for heating working fluids is not asking any
one to live in truly medieval squalor. If somehow we do not
reduce temperatures medieval squalor will be un-obtainable.
With the anti-vaccine movement soon we will see
plagues leading to the death of children. So that will
be a part of the coming squalor.
` In the USA the SCOUSA is religiously obsessed
with putting women back in the medieval position
even quoting from just post medieval legal authorities
to justify their bad bad decisions. In the Old West
when towns got tamer it was customary to check your
weapons with the Sheriff.  If you did not, out of town
you had better go.  Now we cannot even criminalize the
possession of military weapons which like the Thompson
sub-machine gun of he 1930s, are used in massacres
of school children and harmless citizens rather than
the gangsters of the Prohibition era.  We cannot get
these weapons of war and multiple murders taken off
the streets.
Capitalism in the US form largely unregulated
leads to depressions, recessions and war. In all of those
the monied make more money and the less monied suffer
and in wartime die.  So capitalism and industry need
to be regulated because when they are not people
suffer. A plant in Japan leaks mercury into the
fishing grounds of a town and they children who eat
those fish are poisoned.
Government has to be watched by the citizens
as in Flint where poor decisions have led to lead poisoning
of a great many children.
Too many US citizens ignore their governmental
responsibilities to stay informed about anything that
might adversely affect them and their families and
other citizens.

bliss
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